Delta Hiring News
07-14-2013, 08:15 PM
#522
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Originally Posted by MrMustache
Im pretty sure if it's 20 a month it will all be Compass flows if there are some left. They have first rights after furloughs...
07-14-2013, 08:37 PM
#523
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Originally Posted by gloopy
True, but there can be more than one class in a calendar month.
07-14-2013, 08:54 PM
#524
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
What was announced was the number of bodies per month, not the number of classes. They definitely won't be classes of 50, but 50 bodies a month will be 2-3 classes of 17-25. As it reduces to 20 a month, that may be in one class or a pair of 10 person classes.
That's what I read as well, It definitely looks like 300 spread out over 9 or 10 months. In 2010 it was 300 in 3 months.
07-15-2013, 06:12 AM
#525
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
ALPA is trying to monopolize the hiring at DAL. If you don't come from the military or from an ALPA regional with an "agreement", good luck!
I have some serious problems with the way these agreements are structured.
Nobody seems too concerned about all this stuff but what Lee Moak is doing is essentially re-establishing the B scale. Pilots at regional airlines are convinced to work for sub-standard wages in exchange for being added to the mainline seniority list.
The extreme danger that flows from allowing Delta management to directly make contracts with more than one pilot bargaining unit doesn't seem to bother anyone either. (except of course Bucking Bar)
Lee Moak seems to think he can keep control of that situation but I have very little confidence in his real intentions.
07-15-2013, 07:34 AM
#527
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Originally Posted by MrBojangles
I thought the endeavor guys only got a pref interview?? maybe you guys have been over this before? I dont have time to go through 40+ pages with all the flying I've been doing!
Here's the actual language...sorry for the format
Delta Hiring Commitment.
Beginning the month following ratification of a new
restructured Pinnacle pilot collective bargaining
agreement, in each month in which Delta is
offering new hire pilot positions, Delta will offer the
lesser number of the following positions for employment to Pinnacle pilots:
i. one third (1/3) of all available positions, apart from positions filled
underLOA #9 and #10 of the Delta PWA (i.e., Compass and Mesaba FlowUp)
in effect as of December 1,
2012
07-15-2013, 08:19 AM
#528
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
It does appear that ALPA is aiming for more of the "hiring hall" way of doing business that is common in most of the building trades unions.
I have some serious problems with the way these agreements are structured.
Nobody seems too concerned about all this stuff but what Lee Moak is doing is essentially re-establishing the B scale. Pilots at regional airlines are convinced to work for sub-standard wages in exchange for being added to the mainline seniority list.
The extreme danger that flows from allowing Delta management to directly make contracts with more than one pilot bargaining unit doesn't seem to bother anyone either. (except of course Bucking Bar)
Lee Moak seems to think he can keep control of that situation but I have very little confidence in his real intentions.
I have some serious problems with the way these agreements are structured.
Nobody seems too concerned about all this stuff but what Lee Moak is doing is essentially re-establishing the B scale. Pilots at regional airlines are convinced to work for sub-standard wages in exchange for being added to the mainline seniority list.
The extreme danger that flows from allowing Delta management to directly make contracts with more than one pilot bargaining unit doesn't seem to bother anyone either. (except of course Bucking Bar)
Lee Moak seems to think he can keep control of that situation but I have very little confidence in his real intentions.
I see the point you're making but its not exactly historically accurate. The core group of pilots (Compass and Mesaba flows) in this pipeline you are describing have nothing to do with Lee Moak or his actions. They are part of the Northwest Airlines inheritance that Delta has received.
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