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09-04-2014, 03:10 PM
#1501
Back on TDY
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
That's such a great point. In my 35 years at ALPA airlines, I never remember a survey for Section 6 negotiations that asked what concessions we wanted.
Sometimes this place feels like living in an alternate universe.
Sometimes this place feels like living in an alternate universe.
Originally Posted by Mesabah
How do you sell concessions to keep the regional lifers employed, and with the same breath, talk about record contracts for your other constituents?
You lost me here Mesabah.
Carl
09-04-2014, 03:19 PM
#1502
The Brown Dot +1
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Originally Posted by tsquare
We have 850 million shares outstanding. I am not worried about that kind of manipulation at all.... And I certainly think your overly dramatic characterization of how dALPA (which at that point should not handle any of the transactions) would act is silly. For the most part I agree with you about stock vs paycheck pay, but it is not an automatic no from me. I find options much more intriguing, but again it would depend on the structure. If there is any waiting period, deal's dead.
Orvil was just relating how DALPA did act with some stock transactions. So, no, his characterization is not silly.
09-04-2014, 03:21 PM
#1503
The Brown Dot +1
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Originally Posted by Schwanker
Rate 1 thru 6 which you desire most:
- A solid kick square in the nuts
- A sucker punch to the gut
- A little league ball player taking a bat to your back
- A 90 mph slapshot in the teeth
- A good *****-slap across the face
- Being a prison ***** for a month
Result:
Our contract survey showed 63% of you preferred to be *****-slapped! Lets be sure to get that in C2015.
- A solid kick square in the nuts
- A sucker punch to the gut
- A little league ball player taking a bat to your back
- A 90 mph slapshot in the teeth
- A good *****-slap across the face
- Being a prison ***** for a month
Result:
Our contract survey showed 63% of you preferred to be *****-slapped! Lets be sure to get that in C2015.
09-04-2014, 03:49 PM
#1504
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,113
Originally Posted by Alan Shore
You know, I was wondering about that. My assumption was that I was prioritizing how important my answer to each of those issues was, whether that answer was positive or negative.
You think that's wrong?
You think that's wrong?
Your choices are, literally, to not have your survey counted, or to be forced to label things you want to avoid as desirable. Least desirable, but desirable nonetheless.
09-04-2014, 03:53 PM
#1505
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,113
Originally Posted by Alan Shore
No clue on any of these. Why not go to one of the survey roadshows this month and ask?
It's just a thought, of course. I mean, you could do it that way, and for example, let the survey itself be the method for, you know, gauging pilot sentiment.
Or is that too weird?
09-04-2014, 03:56 PM
#1506
Straight QOL, homie
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
Posts: 4,202
I just realized that the DALPA operatives here have already dropped all pretense of obtaining a "home run" contract.
All of their posts here have been about why we must provide concessions--making the company's case, arguing why we need to grant relief. None of the DALPA operatives are even attempting to rally us towards massive improvements.
Why do we put up with this?
All of their posts here have been about why we must provide concessions--making the company's case, arguing why we need to grant relief. None of the DALPA operatives are even attempting to rally us towards massive improvements.
Why do we put up with this?
09-04-2014, 04:00 PM
#1507
At home on the maddog!
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: ATL MD-88A
Posts: 2,874
Originally Posted by Purple Drank
I just realized that the DALPA operatives here have already dropped all pretense of obtaining a "home run" contract.
All of their posts here have been about why we must provide concessions--making the company's case, arguing why we need to grant relief. None of the DALPA operatives are even attempting to rally us towards massive improvements.
All of their posts here have been about why we must provide concessions--making the company's case, arguing why we need to grant relief. None of the DALPA operatives are even attempting to rally us towards massive improvements.
Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Why do we put up with this?
09-04-2014, 05:49 PM
#1510
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 757/767
Posts: 588
Originally Posted by Purple Drank
I just realized that the DALPA operatives here have already dropped all pretense of obtaining a "home run" contract.
All of their posts here have been about why we must provide concessions--making the company's case, arguing why we need to grant relief. None of the DALPA operatives are even attempting to rally us towards massive improvements.
Why do we put up with this?
All of their posts here have been about why we must provide concessions--making the company's case, arguing why we need to grant relief. None of the DALPA operatives are even attempting to rally us towards massive improvements.
Why do we put up with this?
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