Vocal minority?
 

Are we the vocal minority? Is this thing going to pass? I personally am a permanent no voter that will never fill out another survey, but I really did believe at a minimum, this TA would raise our wages more than C2012 did. There are concessions in there related to sick leave and the JV that even I didn't see coming. I also didn't see the profit sharing hit being as big as it was. I figured another 2 percent like C2012. Is it really as bad as it seems? Is there any chance of this being the first TA ever voted down at Delta?

I personally feel its a vocal minority on here voting no. I am yes voter cause i believe this TA rewards us with huge raises, fixes the sick time issues, produces more productive lines so folks arent sitting around at home jerking off while geting paid and if the company doesnt make as much money we at least have our big raises and dont have to worry bout profit sharing.

Aren't you worried about spiders down there?:eek:

Clearly, this is the FUNNIEST thing I've read about the TA in the last 48 hours.

Just making sure you saw this, dude...

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/1906078-post9054.html
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And this....

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/de...ec-letter.html

This has to be flame bait. 6 posts....

You've got me laughing and everyone is looking at me.

I hope it is the same Instructordude as over on FI.com all those years...

Yup...definitely a troll.

Carl

Instructordude is in fact a troll from FI. Wasn't witty there, isn't witty here.

Based on the pilots I have talked with and my personal feelings on the TA I don't think it will ratify. If the company changed the 1 Jan raise to 8% and altered the LCA trip issue I think it would easily ratify. As currently structured it will fail to ratify. For 50 million more a year the company could have had the deal signed and delivered. In this case I think they have gambled a little to much.

The TA sick leave grab was also a massive overreach-around.

I agree with this but believe a modification to the JV agreement and allowing pilots the dignity of keeping their medical records private would also be needed.

I'll take your prediction and raise you one. I think the MEC admin internal polling is reflecting what you just said. As such, I think we'll have another hastily called special MEC meeting to show a revised TA before this one gets voted on. This is a purely opinion based prediction.

Carl

Whoa... you're right. That is a complete mess en route to us.

Standby for for tonight's flavor of banhammer.

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It's crazy how much flightinfo has become a ghost town due to types like that.

Haha, that gif made me laugh. Thanks for keeping the airwaves clear for more intelligent conversation.

As sharpesttool goes out... new one comes in.

Idk because I haven't been flying and even if I had been it's not any better an indicator then this website. That said. When you see some of the people lining up against this thing that voted yes in 2012 it makes you think this will not pass. But, we'll see.

The important thing is to not let our guard down. Each and every one of us needs to vote no and carry copies of this succinct, well written letter above (along with part II when it comes out). Pass it out. Have a friendly conversation about what's really in this TA.

wow i remember instructordude from like 10 years ago at the other forum! must be back from his hiatus

Me too. When I saw his post I was thinking....Didn't I put that guy on ignore? I could have sworn he was on ignore....Then I realized that was on the other forum years ago. Glad the ban hammer got him.

PS. FTB...you are having waaaaaaaay too much fun with the hammer lately. Keep up the good work.:D

Not saying that I agree with him, but I thought you guys opposed censorship. Interesting.

There's a difference between censorship and putting someone out to pasture who's sole purpose is to throw eggs at everyone.

Can you point to any positive post that has come from PD in the last, oh... ever?

He has his moments and, just like you, has spent a good bit of time in the penalty box for bad behavior.

I'm not pro censorship, but when an admin bans a guy I have on ignore, I don't have a problem with it. It takes A LOT of trolling to make my very short ignore list. After all.....you haven't made it.....YET.:p:D Neither has/did Tsquare.;)

I couldn't care less if you ignore me.

T, I thought you said you were giving up on forums?


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