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DARR31 06-16-2015 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1906523)
If it is Dr Faulkner, then I have zero problem with this deal. (The problem becomes of course, what happens when he retires or leaves). He's a good man, and works hard to get DAL pilots back to work. I have first hand knowledge of this when he got my medical back in a matter of a couple of weeks that would have taken the idiots in Ok City months to do.

As you said, what happens when he retires?

Bottom line, we are all adults and are being treated like children. I know this year my sick leave was up from years past and I went over 100 hrs. I had half of my stuff verified and my doc who is my AME was appalled that Delta required us to do the verification. He went as far to say he did not want to sign it since this should be between me and him.

So as for sick leave, as long as there is detailed verification involved, it is a NO vote for me!

TheManager 06-16-2015 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Hixdog (Post 1906509)
The verification form is the same basic form that is in place today. The verification will be Dr. to Dr. (Dr. Faulkner and Delta Health Services from what I understand). It takes verification out of the Chief Pilot's office (or Bob from India) which I believe is a good thing!!

Wrong. Check your facts.

Faulkner = NOT involved.

Outside vendor already hired to do verification. Their "doctor" to your doctor.

Better make sure your doctor releases ONLY the pertinent information and not all your records, which commonly are released by the office staff in a release to other healthcare professionals

TheManager 06-16-2015 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1906523)
If it is Dr Faulkner, then I have zero problem with this deal. (The problem becomes of course, what happens when he retires or leaves). He's a good man, and works hard to get DAL pilots back to work. I have first hand knowledge of this when he got my medical back in a matter of a couple of weeks that would have taken the idiots in Ok City months to do.

Read the facts.

NOT Faulkner.

He flat out refused to be involved with this when first approached.

orvil 06-16-2015 10:38 AM

This is what John Malone had to say about it in a FB group:

"Both parties need to get back to bargaining table and solve this thing in manner that treats the 99% of us as professionals. There is always a solution, and this isn't one of them."

I think it pretty well sums things up.

sailingfun 06-16-2015 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by poostain (Post 1906759)
Guy's talk to FA's you know who have "legitimate" FMLA issue's. They deal with sedgwick and the doctors hate them. I know one doctor who called them totally incompetent.

This sick leave deal is a non-starter for me and I've hardly used any.

Where in the agreement will we deal with Sedgwick?

TheManager 06-16-2015 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1906829)
Where in the agreement will we deal with Sedgwick?

From another post. Was displayed as news on dlnet for awhile yesterday until they pulled it.

I just saw a press release stating that Delta hired Sedgwick as its new workers compensation administration firm.

I looked up Sedgwick. Lo and behold, they also offer a "Disability and Absence" monitoring service.
Here's the description: https://www.sedgwick.com/claims/Pages/disabilityabsence.aspx

Do you suppose Delta signed up for the "package deal" in anticipation of this TA passing? Workers comp and "absence" management.

They don't list "airline crew" as one of their specialties. What could possibly go wrong?

At any point in time, the average large employer has 20% of their employees absent from work due to an active family and medical leave (FML), disability, workers’ compensation or other type of absence request. The impact of unscheduled employee absence on American business has been estimated at $74 billion or as much as 36% of payroll. And that’s a drain on everyone.


As the largest provider of self-funded disability solutions, we can offer a combination of services that cover every possible time away from work scenario including short-term and long-term disability, leave of absence Family and Medical Leave (FML) and workers’ compensation. Our integrated programs provide a high degree of customer service and return employees to work as quickly and safely as possible. We are the only administrator with a solid focus on tailoring our services to the unique needs of each client. And after just one year of working with our clients, we typically see a 15 to 20% reduction of unnecessary absences. Our team of more than 3,000 disability and leave experts not only ensures compliance with the myriad of complex federal laws governing disability and FML, but they also treat each employee with compassion and respect, and act as an advocate for their overall health and wellness during the disability or leave process.

Administration services:
• PTO
• Sick time
• Vacation
• State, federal and municipality leave such as FML
• Short-term disability
• Long-term disability
• Military service
• Employer specific process

Carl Spackler 06-16-2015 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1906497)
Here's my question on this: Can you be FORCED to waive your privacy rights under HIPPA? I wouldn't think so, but this is definitely a concern that I have on this agreement.

It's a great question. HIPAA laws don't apply to a corporation who asks for the information for the specific purpose of paying out sick benefits. You as the employee still have the right to refuse under HIPAA, but the company is then under no violation of law to not pay you for your sick time.

Carl

Carl Spackler 06-16-2015 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Hixdog (Post 1906509)
The verification form is the same basic form that is in place today. The verification will be Dr. to Dr. (Dr. Faulkner and Delta Health Services from what I understand). It takes verification out of the Chief Pilot's office (or Bob from India) which I believe is a good thing!!

It's not Hix. It opens the door to third party vendor doctors who's stated corporate objective is to minimize costs to Delta.

Carl

Ferd149 06-16-2015 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1906523)
If it is Dr Faulkner, then I have zero problem with this deal. (The problem becomes of course, what happens when he retires or leaves). He's a good man, and works hard to get DAL pilots back to work. I have first hand knowledge of this when he got my medical back in a matter of a couple of weeks that would have taken the idiots in Ok City months to do.

I've never had dealings with Dr Faulkner but I've heard great things about him, I'll add your story to the list.

But, it does bring up something I'd been thinking about since I first read about the switch to DHS for verification. I'm sure they will have to add staff to cover the workload currently being done in the CPSC or whatever they call them now.

Sooooooo, now that I've heard about this outside/contract group it all makes sense. It could be the devil you know vs the devil you don't know..........but this has me worried. Sorta like the Master Sargent in the Flight Surgeon's office who didn't like pilots doing your annual eye and hearing exam:D

Ferd

Ferd149 06-16-2015 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1906797)
Read the facts.

NOT Faulkner.

He flat out refused to be involved with this when first approached.

Source?

We need more details above what the NC notepad published.


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