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BobZ 06-30-2015 07:39 AM

B-man.....say it aint so!.....dalpa will get the db back....just you wait and see!:)

Your point of career earnings is spot on.....as we exited BK I floated an idea to the R&I guys about the best way to structure a delta pilots retirement benefit....it involved getting to the maximum extent.. front loaded company contribution to self directed savings.

it was probably not a template that would retrofit....it would have to start with pilot 'zero'.....well, pilot zero is now onboard and we are still stuck with traditionalists thinking.

If this pilot 'group' wanted to be at the head of the class...the pwa would provide the company filling to the 415c ceiling from year one.

BenderRodriguez 06-30-2015 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1918617)
How does that help your claim of the stupidity of bigger paying more? The VAST majority of our fleet is smaller than these aircraft and pay less. Again, how do we divorce ourselves from bigger paying more?

Carl

How do you eat an elephant, Carl?

BenderRodriguez 06-30-2015 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1918622)
You're right. With those SWA scope clauses, they'll never pull up to an Orlando gate with 3 Virgin 747's getting ready to take their passengers to Europe. They'll never "get to do" what we do. :rolleyes:

Carl

Says Mr 747 captain. :rolleyes:

BenderRodriguez 06-30-2015 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by BobZ (Post 1918627)
B-man.....say it aint so!.....dalpa will get the db back....just you wait and see!:)

Your point of career earnings is spot on.....as we exited BK I floated an idea to the R&I guys about the best way to structure a delta pilots retirement benefit....it involved getting to the maximum extent.. front loaded company contribution to self directed savings.

it was probably not a template that would retrofit....it would have to start with pilot 'zero'.....well, pilot zero is now onboard and we are still stuck with traditionalists thinking.

If this pilot 'group' wanted to be at the head of the class...the pwa would provide the company filling to the 415c ceiling from year one.

winner winner (you know the rest)

Sink r8 06-30-2015 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1918498)
IMO, EASKs protect us more than the BH language...Hugely.

My understanding is that EASK's are better upside protection, worse downside protection. Which one is more appropriate now? You decide.

Carl Spackler 06-30-2015 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1918633)
How do you eat an elephant, Carl?

I work for Delta, so we eat elephants by entering into an eating joint venture and Delta pilots fight over the elephant scraps.

Carl

Carl Spackler 06-30-2015 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1918634)
Says Mr 747 captain. :rolleyes:

What does that have to do with anything?

Carl

Mesabah 06-30-2015 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1918645)
My understanding is that EASK's are better upside protection, worse downside protection. Which one is more appropriate now? You decide.

Ahhh neither actually. Before the TA came out, you guys were talking recapture, now it's which turd is better? Come on....

Carl Spackler 06-30-2015 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1918645)
My understanding is that EASK's are better upside protection, worse downside protection. Which one is more appropriate now? You decide.

Incorrect. EASK's provide the better protection for pilots. That's why we fought for EASK's in C2012. It's why the company wants out of it now in favor of block hours.

Carl

Carl Spackler 06-30-2015 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1918652)
Ahhh neither actually. Before the TA came out, you guys were talking recapture, now it's which turd is better? Come on....

Yup. Stockholm Syndrome is a powerful phenomenon.

Carl


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