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Purple Drank 07-10-2015 11:43 AM

MEC Meeting 21 July
 
That's several days away.

Is there any chance this NC with this Chairman will sit down with the company in the interim to cooperate on a slightly better deal? I don't want any of the guys who brought us this POS remotely involved in the next one. I don't want them in the same area code.

Is it possible to call Special LEC meetings to expedite recalls?

Doug Masters 07-10-2015 11:49 AM

Can't stop laughing at your new avatar PD. Well played.

gloopy 07-10-2015 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1926274)
That's a several days away.

Is there any chance this NC with this Chairman will sit down with the company in the interim to cooperate on a slightly better deal?

Is it possible to call Special LEC meetings to expedite recalls?

Gift the company 100M and take only 1.0B in pay only with no other changes. Early TA passes by the end of August, 100M cheaper for the company.

Then after that we can work on LOA's to trade PS into pay at a 1:1 or greater.

Maybe an LOA with some common sense sick leave reforms like instead of June 1 for the entire company that supposedly generates this huge spike, make it everyone's hire date which smooths out the crisis bump. An LOA that allows shadow sick time to count prior to awarding GS/WS (this was one of the fair "concessions" in the TA WRT sick).

Maybe an LOA that modestly reduces the unverified threshold (but still keeps it, this is a "red line") in exchange for other gains like the 2 months FAA leave or a disability "top off" account similar to POS15 except with a greater than 25% redemption rate. And we need a better disability payout in the first place. And DPMA is by pilots for pilots and is none of their business and should never, ever, count against us when bargaining for anything.

SEA is a hub, at least to the extent that it protects our narrowbody block hour/jobs progress there. This is a ZERO COST ITEM!

DCI needs to be reduced by more than 2% if they even want to ask for more 76 seaters, and even then I doubt they could afford it. Restrictions on RJ's remain regardless.

190 pay needs to be the same premium over JB/s 190 pay that our 320/321 is above their 320/321 pay. 195 needs to pay 717 pay because that's what it is.

The company can always claim a modest victory because we won't get "retro" going back to July 1 anymore so whatever.

Piklepausepull 07-10-2015 12:33 PM

And why not a payout at retirement of the disability bank we will be contributing to by not calling in sick?

notEnuf 07-10-2015 12:52 PM

JV settlement
 
When will the details be released from the grievance settlement?

Army80 07-10-2015 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Piklepausepull (Post 1926334)
And why not a payout at retirement of the disability bank we will be contributing to by not calling in sick?


Not a fan of giving guys an incentive to come to work sick.

Boatbuilder 07-10-2015 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 1926358)
When will the details be released from the grievance settlement?

I was told they have 60 days to pay out the 30 mil. About a month left.

hockeypilot44 07-10-2015 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Boatbuilder (Post 1926471)
I was told they have 60 days to pay out the 30 mil. About a month left.

When do we refile the grievance? The company is still out of compliance.

Carl Spackler 07-10-2015 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1926611)
When do we refile the grievance? The company is still out of compliance.

Exactly right...unless we gave away more in the grievance settlement language...which this corrupt administration has still not released.

Carl

LivingTheDream 07-11-2015 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1926296)
Gift the company 100M and take only 1.0B in pay only with no other changes. Early TA passes by the end of August, 100M cheaper for the company.

Then after that we can work on LOA's to trade PS into pay at a 1:1 or greater.

Maybe an LOA with some common sense sick leave reforms like instead of June 1 for the entire company that supposedly generates this huge spike, make it everyone's hire date which smooths out the crisis bump. An LOA that allows shadow sick time to count prior to awarding GS/WS (this was one of the fair "concessions" in the TA WRT sick).

Maybe an LOA that modestly reduces the unverified threshold (but still keeps it, this is a "red line") in exchange for other gains like the 2 months FAA leave or a disability "top off" account similar to POS15 except with a greater than 25% redemption rate. And we need a better disability payout in the first place. And DPMA is by pilots for pilots and is none of their business and should never, ever, count against us when bargaining for anything.

SEA is a hub, at least to the extent that it protects our narrowbody block hour/jobs progress there. This is a ZERO COST ITEM!

DCI needs to be reduced by more than 2% if they even want to ask for more 76 seaters, and even then I doubt they could afford it. Restrictions on RJ's remain regardless.

190 pay needs to be the same premium over JB/s 190 pay that our 320/321 is above their 320/321 pay. 195 needs to pay 717 pay because that's what it is.

The company can always claim a modest victory because we won't get "retro" going back to July 1 anymore so whatever.

Don't agree at all.

Company making 8B, 9B, 10B is NOT the time for "tweaks".

A clean sweep of the yes men/women, then a COMPLETE re-write is in order.


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