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TenYearsGone 07-10-2015 12:18 PM

Resignation
 
I wholeheartedly agree that the YAY reps resign honorably before being recalled.

Lets put someone in position that is willing to back their pilots up. Clearly, the current YAY reps do not consider their constituents a valuable or serious voice. Rumor has it that one of the LEC reps called his folks, "Clowns". I will do my best to find the truth on this unacceptable behavior.

I thank them dearly, but now it is time to do the right thing and resign.

We can not go into negotiations with the current set of people. Donetelli, the reps and the NC already told us we will not get more.

We need to FIRE these guys if they do not resign.

Congratulations fellow brothers on a historic victory.

TEN

Check Essential 07-10-2015 12:42 PM

By their own words, the YES voters on the MEC and the entire MEC administration have disqualified themselves from any further participation in this process.

They told us plainly that this is the best they can do. They fired every bullet. They endorsed Mr. Anderson's statement that any subsequent deal will not be better.
The Delta pilots have rejected their position by an astonishing margin. They are done.

Now they must resign immediately or act only in a caretaker role until the pilots have at least been given the opportunity to replace them in an orderly fashion. Some of them may survive recall. I don't see how, but its possible.

In any case:

There can be no further negotiations with management until we sort this out.

This MEC administration has ZERO authority to do anything but facilitate the transition phase.

We will go through this process in an orderly and business-like manner. But go through it we must.

Maddog Heaven 07-10-2015 01:01 PM

Ten Years and Check Essential...

I agree with both of you. However, why not consider replacing ALPA.

Have you sent in your DPA cards?

UGBSM 07-10-2015 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Maddog Heaven (Post 1926364)
Ten Years and Check Essential...

I agree with both of you. However, why not consider replacing ALPA.

Have you sent in your DPA cards?

Don't get all giggity giggity. This was a referendum against a TA, not for DPA.

Purple Drank 07-10-2015 01:13 PM

Perversely, this "no" vote probably ensured ALPA remains on the property.

Provided, of course, timely and appropriate reforms are enacted.

I suspect Donatelli and friends will be under significant pressure from ALPA national to resign.

The whole lot needs to return to the line. For the remainder of their careers.

Omar 111 07-10-2015 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by UGBSM (Post 1926367)
Don't get all giggity giggity. This was a referendum against a TA, not for DPA.

+1

Omar

Maddog Heaven 07-10-2015 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by UGBSM (Post 1926367)
Don't get all giggity giggity. This was a referendum against a TA, not for DPA.


One reason that (D)ALPA is no longer listening to you is that they have no competitor. Their seat isn't hot enough. Heck, it's not even warm.

Sending in a DPA card is not a vote for DPA. But it sends a stronger, clearer message to ALPA.

iceman49 07-10-2015 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Maddog Heaven (Post 1926391)
One reason that (D)ALPA is no longer listening to you is that they have no competitor. Their seat isn't hot enough. Heck, it's not even warm.

Sending in a DPA card is not a vote for DPA. But it sends a stronger, clearer message to ALPA.

Sorry, I disagree...the process worked.

Maddog Heaven 07-10-2015 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 1926414)
Sorry, I disagree...the process worked.


The process is working, but far from over. We are just getting started.

Ferd149 07-10-2015 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by Maddog Heaven (Post 1926391)
One reason that (D)ALPA is no longer listening to you is that they have no competitor. Their seat isn't hot enough. Heck, it's not even warm.

Sending in a DPA card is not a vote for DPA. But it sends a stronger, clearer message to ALPA.

I strongly disagree and it plays into my conspicery theory.

Serious question, who wins between DPA and none of the above. Remember this is a southern & conservative company. Don't walk us into the ambush.......

If it's really there and not a figment of my warped imagination:D

gzsg 07-10-2015 02:14 PM

Mike

We both know that the best thing for DALPA and the Delta pilots is for you to resign immediately.

The extremes to sell this TA were obscene and shameful. Your continued mantra of "nothing left on the table" makes you ineligible to continue as our leader.

Every moment you stay in office is harming the Delta pilots and I know you do not want that.

On the bright side, you get to go back to the best job in the world.

Regards

Jerry

gzsg 07-10-2015 02:17 PM

Read Buzz's update.

He and John are unrepenant. They didn't learn a thing.

Nothing will change until DPA hits the target. These guys are arrogant beyond anything we can imagine.

Signing a card is NOT a vote for DPA. It is a vote for a runoff between ALPA and DPA.

3 green 07-10-2015 02:24 PM

The way the ATL reps were pushing this TA was sickening..I cannot imagine continuing with these reps in place...Time to get out of ALPA and fly the line...We need level headed reps to take their place and stand up and negotiate for the pilots. Not represent the Company and do whatever Delta mgmt. tells them to do. The way ALPA has become part of mgmt. needs to change fast...This no vote proves guys have had enough of ALPA in its current form.

crewdawg52 07-10-2015 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by UGBSM (Post 1926367)
Don't get all giggity giggity. This was a referendum against a TA, not for DPA.

But as our MEC Chairman stated, "This is the best you are going to get"!

I'll bet a bunch it's not! Why are people afraid to try another bargaining agent :confused: Hey, if it doesn't work, we can always re-vote for ALPA or another agent. Do you really think if we vote ALPA out, they wont take us back in? Hell, they allowed scabs back in! Is it because all those "cushy" DALPA/ ALPA jobs wont be there anymore?


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