CONFIRMED: Sp MEC Meeting Moved To Reston, VA
#23
New Orleans was off campus too, closed due to the sensitive nature of the TA discussions. I wonder how fast they try an end around and get a new TA before the elections and recalls? I'll go to VA just to get the answer.
#24
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
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Rumor Alert from FB:
Ok....here's the latest from a rep...after the earnings report tomorrow RA is gonna tell dalpa that sick leave dropped off with the threat of the TA and he wants to improve the TA and offer it up again. Sounds like they will tweak sick leave and add 4-6% more in raises and hope we vote it in. They are gonna pass off the same turd w a bit more cash involved hoping we are dumb enough to pass it this time?
They just don't get that it's not about more money, although it did need more of that. It's about dignity and respect! It's about being treated fairly after all the sacrifices the pilot group gave up during bankruptcy. You can't buy us off. You need to rework the entire TA and take out the concessions, the JV changes, the entire sick leave rewrite, add more to our retirement and make it effective day one, not two years into it!!! If this really happens we need to send it back again with an even bigger margin of NO voters to yes voters.
Don't embarrass your self Alpa and RA. We deserve better. We deserve respect and paybacks for sacrificing so much to keep NWA and Delta going after 911. If RA wants to continue to do business w Alpa instead of DPA he needs to do right by the pilots of delta immediately!!!
Ok....here's the latest from a rep...after the earnings report tomorrow RA is gonna tell dalpa that sick leave dropped off with the threat of the TA and he wants to improve the TA and offer it up again. Sounds like they will tweak sick leave and add 4-6% more in raises and hope we vote it in. They are gonna pass off the same turd w a bit more cash involved hoping we are dumb enough to pass it this time?
They just don't get that it's not about more money, although it did need more of that. It's about dignity and respect! It's about being treated fairly after all the sacrifices the pilot group gave up during bankruptcy. You can't buy us off. You need to rework the entire TA and take out the concessions, the JV changes, the entire sick leave rewrite, add more to our retirement and make it effective day one, not two years into it!!! If this really happens we need to send it back again with an even bigger margin of NO voters to yes voters.
Don't embarrass your self Alpa and RA. We deserve better. We deserve respect and paybacks for sacrificing so much to keep NWA and Delta going after 911. If RA wants to continue to do business w Alpa instead of DPA he needs to do right by the pilots of delta immediately!!!
#26
Hmm... Wonder what happened to "there will be no better deal?"
Sick leave is a non-starter, unless it's verification for single illness over 15 days or "good faith basis," same as now. No AME on Delta payroll is getting anywhere near my records. I am fine with giving a note to my CP if he requires it (and pays for it).
Go find the abusers and nail their asses to the wall, if you can prove it. Otherwise, fu¢k off and let me do my job, so we can all roll around in the Benjamins.
Oh, and all y'all MD-11's better step down. Don't make me get off this couch and recall your dumb ass. Because I will do it. If I can get a break from all these sweet, sweet green slips. (Remind me again why I want the staffing problem fixed?)
Sick leave is a non-starter, unless it's verification for single illness over 15 days or "good faith basis," same as now. No AME on Delta payroll is getting anywhere near my records. I am fine with giving a note to my CP if he requires it (and pays for it).
Go find the abusers and nail their asses to the wall, if you can prove it. Otherwise, fu¢k off and let me do my job, so we can all roll around in the Benjamins.
Oh, and all y'all MD-11's better step down. Don't make me get off this couch and recall your dumb ass. Because I will do it. If I can get a break from all these sweet, sweet green slips. (Remind me again why I want the staffing problem fixed?)
#27
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Joined APC: Mar 2009
Posts: 36
If the MEC has a hospitality suite with excess food and booze and are partying like Jordan Belfort in Wall Street, yes, shut that crap down. Otherwise cover a dude or dudette's meals when they're doing union work, even when you don't agree with them politically. Of course if enough people disagree with how they conduct business there are other ways to handle that
I don't think pilots should have to accept hardship conditions to do union work, but for god's sake, be responsible with the dues dollars.
#28
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Rumor Alert from FB:
Ok....here's the latest from a rep...after the earnings report tomorrow RA is gonna tell dalpa that sick leave dropped off with the threat of the TA and he wants to improve the TA and offer it up again. Sounds like they will tweak sick leave and add 4-6% more in raises and hope we vote it in. They are gonna pass off the same turd w a bit more cash involved hoping we are dumb enough to pass it this time?
Ok....here's the latest from a rep...after the earnings report tomorrow RA is gonna tell dalpa that sick leave dropped off with the threat of the TA and he wants to improve the TA and offer it up again. Sounds like they will tweak sick leave and add 4-6% more in raises and hope we vote it in. They are gonna pass off the same turd w a bit more cash involved hoping we are dumb enough to pass it this time?
#29
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#30
Straight QOL, homie
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