Delta Air Lines 2Q15 Earnings Call
#183
I think you are still confused on a line item veto. If we had that option, we could veto the Scope concession, Sick Leave concession, OE trip pulls and profit sharing reduction while leaving the pay rates, vacation and per diem in tact. With line item veto we could pass the TA and veto the concessionary parts.
#184
Everybody has a line item veto. One issue voters have them and there are lots of different ones. How many times have we read "If we don't get XXX, I'm voting no"? That is a defacto line item veto.
I get what you're saying though. Sorry, but I believe it when the dALPA guys say that pay pay pay was at the top of the list in the survey. (Standing by for incoming) and that many of the other things were not as strongly advocated. They had to make choices. This is not a pro TA missive either. What concerns me that going forward is that NOTHING is negotiable in the minds of many. Contrary to what His Royal Highness Carl says, compromise and concession are one in the same on these boards.
I know I am arguing semantics.
I get what you're saying though. Sorry, but I believe it when the dALPA guys say that pay pay pay was at the top of the list in the survey. (Standing by for incoming) and that many of the other things were not as strongly advocated. They had to make choices. This is not a pro TA missive either. What concerns me that going forward is that NOTHING is negotiable in the minds of many. Contrary to what His Royal Highness Carl says, compromise and concession are one in the same on these boards.
I know I am arguing semantics.
I'm sure pay was at the top of the survey by a wide margin. That doesn't mean we wanted give up so much of the other stuff. I don't know why the union won't release the survey results...I mean, come on, I'm sure the company knows pay and more time off are at the top of the list anyway.
Denny
#185
Pressure is building, and someone is going to have to blink. For once, I think the advantage of patience is finally on our side. If we hold strong, we'll get what we want as demographic factors continue to strain the company's resources, and, barring a significant external catastrophe, it will have a higher total value than the failed TA.
Also, you need to stop mis-using the term "line item veto" when what you really mean is "litmus test."
#186
I think you are still confused on a line item veto. If we had that option, we could veto the Scope concession, Sick Leave concession, OE trip pulls and profit sharing reduction while leaving the pay rates, vacation and per diem in tact. With line item veto we could pass the TA and veto the concessionary parts.
Is this clear enough Bender?
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