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yodafly 07-19-2015 10:33 AM

pretax
 
Anyone know what the difference would be in profit sharing if we where using the c2015 contract changes to how pretax is calculated?

scambo1 07-19-2015 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by yodafly (Post 1933028)
Anyone know what the difference would be in profit sharing if we where using the c2015 contract changes to how pretax is calculated?

Lower. A lot lower. 17% vs 25% of your earnings.

El10 07-20-2015 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1933191)
Lower. A lot lower. 17% vs 25% of your earnings.

Is that the effect of adding management pay to the pretax numbers?

If the 20% threshold stayed the same, but how pretax was calculated what would be the effect? Or on 1.1 billion pool how much would that have been reduced by management compensation? Also does this mean they are moving management compensation from the expense line item to the PS line item?

scambo1 07-20-2015 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by El10 (Post 1933452)
Is that the effect of adding management pay to the pretax numbers?

If the 20% threshold stayed the same, but how pretax was calculated what would be the effect? Or on 1.1 billion pool how much would that have been reduced by management compensation? Also does this mean they are moving management compensation from the expense line item to the PS line item?

The difference between 2.5B and 6B thresholds and an estimated $500M for mgmt estimated at $6B and $7B then averaged. At higher profits, it becomes a much bigger difference. $11B is the top Alpa 2018 estimated profit. Under c12, 11B profit results in PS of roughly 35% of your pay. 10% to $2.5b 20% 2.5B-11B

250m+ 1.7b=2 B. 2B/3 =$660M. 660m/12000=$55k/pilot averaged.

It's based on earnings, so obviously some will get more, some less. Assuming the average pilot makes $150k, it's about a third of your pay in 2018.

yodafly 07-20-2015 09:09 AM

I also think things in the equity section of the balance sheet such as increase in stock value was adjusted. Going to have to dive deeper into it.

scambo1 07-20-2015 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by yodafly (Post 1933566)
I also think things in the equity section of the balance sheet such as increase in stock value was adjusted. Going to have to dive deeper into it.

Yes in NA15, 2400 management employees equity compensation would be subtracted before ptix was calculated for profit sharing. Not so in c12.


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