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gzsg 09-20-2015 07:02 AM

Vacation Vacation Vacation
 
Max annual vacation at:

FedEx 216 hours

UPS 175 hours

Alaska 162 hours

SWA--Southwest has trips touching vacation. In other words, Any trip that touches your vacation is paid in full.

Quality of life was at the top of our surveys. Since our bankruptcy conessions, we have all flown countless extra days to save the company.

OUR CONESSIONS ARE NO LONGER NEEDED


Delta current max 113:30 hours.

United 136:30 hours. Note: This is bankruptcy vacation at United. The will open negotiations soon and easily match or exceed the Alaska vacation, IMO.

Imagine your annual schedule with this amount of vacation. Vacation is quality of life and in the rejected TA the shadow MEC completely ignored our desires for improved quality of life.

We have a great leader. He wants to hear your input. Take the time to stress quality of life.

zippinbye 09-20-2015 12:29 PM

Agreed. Furthermore, any compromise from our sick time should be converted to vacation. That will help management predict how many people will be "calling in" to use it! No harassment or Dr. note required.

gloopy 09-20-2015 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by zippinbye (Post 1975500)
Agreed. Furthermore, any compromise from our sick time should be converted to vacation. That will help management predict how many people will be "calling in" to use it! No harassment or Dr. note required.

We absolutely need more vacation, and it needs to be an increased vacation day, pay and credit, to get the hours we should be at, at least for line construction (preferably for trip pick ups too but at least for line construction). We need that long before we need another week of anemic vacation that only a few pilots will get for a few years netting around 4 days off for each "week" of vacation.

gzsg 09-20-2015 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1975510)
We absolutely need more vacation, and it needs to be an increased vacation day, pay and credit, to get the hours we should be at, at least for line construction (preferably for trip pick ups too but at least for line construction). We need that long before we need another week of anemic vacation that only a few pilots will get for a few years netting around 4 days off for each "week" of vacation.

As someone with 30 years I couldn't agree more. We need to increase the value of a vacation day so every Delta pilot gains quality of life.

BobZ 09-20-2015 05:43 PM

dalpa destroyed the value of vacation for this pilot group when they 'monetized' it via the vacation sell back.

Erdude32 09-21-2015 06:10 AM

Wow, I had no idea our vacations sucked so bad compared to everyone else. I'm no longer disappointed, I'm insulted. Not only is my backpack off, I feel like burning it. The Co has a long way to go to turn this around.

Schwanker 09-21-2015 06:46 AM

Our vacation table is a complete disgrace and my top priority right behind scope.

1. 6 weeks at 20 years, 5 weeks at 15 years, 4 weeks at 10 years
2. Pay 5:15/day

I'd take this over pay rate increases any day--do the math. Current tables are a sham. Adding 100 hours/year is roughly a 10% raise. Pay rates aren't everything and we are behind our peers.

gzsg 09-21-2015 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Schwanker (Post 1975848)
Our vacation table is a complete disgrace and my top priority right behind scope.

1. 6 weeks at 20 years, 5 weeks at 15 years, 4 weeks at 10 years
2. Pay 5:15/day

I'd take this over pay rate increases any day--do the math. Current tables are a sham. Adding 100 hours/year is roughly a 10% raise. Pay rates aren't everything and we are behind our peers.

Please share with your reps!

Schwanker 09-21-2015 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1975894)
Please share with your reps!

I did just that during the last contract survey as well as via email. This was before the POS2015 failure. Hopefully it'll pick up some steam this time around.

Carl Spackler 09-21-2015 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Erdude32 (Post 1975831)
Wow, I had no idea our vacations sucked so bad compared to everyone else. I'm no longer disappointed, I'm insulted. Not only is my backpack off, I feel like burning it. The Co has a long way to go to turn this around.

Not compared to everyone else dude. We beat out Allegiant.

Seriously though, you've illustrated one of the biggest wounds DALPA has inflicted upon us. Specifically, how they've withheld just how far we are behind in so many sections of our contract.

Carl


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