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Originally Posted by Herman (Post 2016786)

No hat, no landing.

There'd be a lot of guys doing requal in the sim with that policy😜

Is this just a Delta thing? Is it due to the psych test and hence the people we hire? We have use or lose policy, only an idiot would show up sick.

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Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 2016279)

It's not.

It's a red herring dreamed up by management that they expected ALPA to pass in an effort to squeeze more blood from a stone(efficiency) out of the pilots.

The machiavellian maneuver by management and served to us by ALPA would have worked had the pilots voted yes. We didn't.

Unfortunately we are still discussing the merits of this red herring. It needs to stop.

We are currently under the sick leave program management "had to have". They can live with it.

I have moved as far as I'm willing to move on sick leave.

This ^^^^^^^^^^

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Originally Posted by 300SMK (Post 2017645)

Is this just a Delta thing? Is it due to the psych test and hence the people we hire? We have use or lose policy, only an idiot would show up sick.

In a weird way yes. I have always contended that there are two types of sick leave "abusers" and DAL mgmt is perfectly happy with one type of them. They are the guys who somehow take it almost as a badge of honor never calling in sick...just like there are guys who also seem proud of the fact that they call in sick once a quarter whether they need to or not.

It is pretty simple. If you even have to ask the question "do I think I can tough it out even though I am a little under the weather?"....CALL IN SICK AND DON'T GET YOUR FELLOW PILOT SICK.

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 2015931)

Just finished a two-day with the Captain hacking up a lung the entire trip. :confused: #awesomeness :mad:

I think I heard this guy in the media room in the crew lounge. Man, that guy sounded like he was dying! I was grateful he didn't show up in the cockpit for the start of the trip.

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Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2016783)

All I see are short sleeve shirts, no horse blankets, no wonder you guys are sick. London Fog is still in business. Sheess.....

Has nothing to do with getting a virus.

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Originally Posted by Imapilot2 (Post 2017784)

Has nothing to do with getting a virus.

Don't try to tell that to Moms..

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Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2017811)

Don't try to tell that to Moms..

Now that I'll agree with. Making sure Billy goes outside with plenty clothes on so he's not back in in 5 minutes and Dad can have a little alone time with the wife. You got that right ;)

There are advantages to being a neurotic, frequent-hand washing germaphobe.

I never got lectured in Indoc or by CPO not to use sick leave. I sicked out of two trips while on probation. Scared the hell out of me but I had no choice. Got the flu once and a wicked head cold the next time.

The second time, on the "backside" of the cold, I commuted down the night prior hoping I'd be better at show-time. When I went to bed the night prior I knew there was no way so I called scheds that night.

I asked them if they'd rather someone make the call early or try to see if they can tough it out. Her response was emphatic, "the earlier the better;" obviously it makes it easier for them to fill the line. Had to go see the CPO the next morning to get permission to non-rev back home. Me in the CPO office: "Sorry I'm not going to shake your hand, I'm sick." CPO: "Then what the hell are you doing at work?!?"

I never heard a thing about either sick-out except auto-generated emails detailing the need to call in well, and how you could WS/GS and pay back your sick bank if you flew on days of a rotation that were removed for the sick-out if you got healthy in time.

Oh, both times, I got sick because the Captain(s) on my previous rotation(s) flew sick, so it ain't just new FOs spreading the love.