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01-31-2016, 05:06 AM
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Straight QOL, homie
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For NA15, management attempted to steamroll us by using an artificially condensed timeline.
Now, they're trying the opposite: attempting to wear us down with threats of an artificially drawn-out timeline.
A ploy to control the timeline is really the only leverage they have at this point. With that counterproposal, they are hoping to institute a feeling of hopelessness and futility to "soften us up." Maybe they'll take a couple hostages to further test our resolve.
But their needs are still acute--and our wants are not.
I can see management bumping up their pay offer--maybe even to 22/7/7--in short order, in an attempt to peel off a few votes and maybe jam it through this MEC before March 1. Of course, they will want those original scope, PS, and QOL concessions in return.
We've got to keep our wits about us, take a deep breath, and calmly cash our profit sharing checks. We need to buy into Malone's leadership.
Let's not allow management to set the timeline, or get into our heads psychologically.
Now, they're trying the opposite: attempting to wear us down with threats of an artificially drawn-out timeline.
A ploy to control the timeline is really the only leverage they have at this point. With that counterproposal, they are hoping to institute a feeling of hopelessness and futility to "soften us up." Maybe they'll take a couple hostages to further test our resolve.
But their needs are still acute--and our wants are not.
I can see management bumping up their pay offer--maybe even to 22/7/7--in short order, in an attempt to peel off a few votes and maybe jam it through this MEC before March 1. Of course, they will want those original scope, PS, and QOL concessions in return.
We've got to keep our wits about us, take a deep breath, and calmly cash our profit sharing checks. We need to buy into Malone's leadership.
Let's not allow management to set the timeline, or get into our heads psychologically.
01-31-2016, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
For NA15, management attempted to steamroll us by using an artificially condensed timeline.
Now, they're trying the opposite: attempting to wear us down with threats of an artificially drawn-out timeline.
A ploy to control the timeline is really the only leverage they have at this point. With that counterproposal, they are hoping to institute a feeling of hopelessness and futility to "soften us up." Maybe they'll take a couple hostages to further test our resolve.
But their needs are still acute--and our wants are not.
I can see management bumping up their pay offer--maybe even to 22/7/7--in short order, in an attempt to peel off a few votes and maybe jam it through this MEC before March 1. Of course, they will want those original scope, PS, and QOL concessions in return.
We've got to keep our wits about us, take a deep breath, and calmly cash our profit sharing checks. We need to buy into Malone's leadership.
Let's not allow management to set the timeline, or get into our heads psychologically.
Now, they're trying the opposite: attempting to wear us down with threats of an artificially drawn-out timeline.
A ploy to control the timeline is really the only leverage they have at this point. With that counterproposal, they are hoping to institute a feeling of hopelessness and futility to "soften us up." Maybe they'll take a couple hostages to further test our resolve.
But their needs are still acute--and our wants are not.
I can see management bumping up their pay offer--maybe even to 22/7/7--in short order, in an attempt to peel off a few votes and maybe jam it through this MEC before March 1. Of course, they will want those original scope, PS, and QOL concessions in return.
We've got to keep our wits about us, take a deep breath, and calmly cash our profit sharing checks. We need to buy into Malone's leadership.
Let's not allow management to set the timeline, or get into our heads psychologically.
Why management thinks stalling us will force concessions is beyond me. Our current contract is better and most everyone knows it.
I'm happy waiting till they get it right. The alternative is concessions.
01-31-2016, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Having Atlanta reps that are on our side instead of management's is a game changer.
The best thing that has happened to our profession in over a decade.
The best thing that has happened to our profession in over a decade.
Delta Air Lines sees profit margins doubling from cheap fuel
01-31-2016, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Whereisalpa
Also, be cautious of wishing Uniteds TA for us. They have nice pay rates but several turds floating in their new TA!!
DAL = Rates & QOL + PS!!
DAL = Rates & QOL + PS!!
01-31-2016, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
We are in a comfortable position to ride this out and wait for them to pay up.
01-31-2016, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
How long are we willing to wait for them to pay up? Indefinitely? It would seem there has to be some kind of limit. Just wondering.
Our contract is future proof. Our work rules are good enough but not great and we can live with them. We certainly cant live without them. Out PS is variable and will ride the economic waves both good and bad. Our 3B4 in its current form excludes PS and will keep us in good shape. Holding e190 and 321 rates as part of section 6, and we'll keep great leverage.
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