Speculation game: UAL TA & effect on DAL TA2
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Speculation game: UAL TA & effect on DAL TA2
Anybody care to guess
1. Will the UAL extension pass?
2. What (if any) will be it's effect on DAL TA2?
1. My guess is it will pass. I haven't talked to a lot of people but my general feeling from the few I spoke with is it's going to get the nod.
2. I think management is looking at the UAL TA results. I think they care if it passes or fails and by how much. That said, if I had a magic wand to make it pass/fail by a lot/little, I wouldn't know how to wave it to make DAL management more likely to give us a better deal.
1. Will the UAL extension pass?
2. What (if any) will be it's effect on DAL TA2?
1. My guess is it will pass. I haven't talked to a lot of people but my general feeling from the few I spoke with is it's going to get the nod.
2. I think management is looking at the UAL TA results. I think they care if it passes or fails and by how much. That said, if I had a magic wand to make it pass/fail by a lot/little, I wouldn't know how to wave it to make DAL management more likely to give us a better deal.
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Anybody care to guess
1. Will the UAL extension pass?
Yes
2. What (if any) will be it's (sic) effect on DAL TA2?
Doesn't raise bar that much. Relies on Delta pilots to do heavier lift. Unsure if the Delta "me too" is what everyone thinks it is.
1. My guess is it will pass. I haven't talked to a lot of people but my general feeling from the few I spoke with is it's going to get the nod.
2. I think management is looking at the UAL TA results. I think they care if it passes or fails and by how much. That said, if I had a magic wand to make it pass/fail by a lot/little, I wouldn't know how to wave it to make DAL management more likely to give us a better deal.
1. Will the UAL extension pass?
Yes
2. What (if any) will be it's (sic) effect on DAL TA2?
Doesn't raise bar that much. Relies on Delta pilots to do heavier lift. Unsure if the Delta "me too" is what everyone thinks it is.
1. My guess is it will pass. I haven't talked to a lot of people but my general feeling from the few I spoke with is it's going to get the nod.
2. I think management is looking at the UAL TA results. I think they care if it passes or fails and by how much. That said, if I had a magic wand to make it pass/fail by a lot/little, I wouldn't know how to wave it to make DAL management more likely to give us a better deal.
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DAL Chairman's letter just confirmed the UAL TA passed. No concessions. Average 14.2% higher rates than DL, very similar profit sharing retained. Looks like we finally have a stepping stone. At this point an "aggressive" stance from our management is likely to backfire badly. I won't be surprised if they try as there is no accounting for stupidity and ego issues. However, I'm optimistic we'll see an agreement before I'm an OldRetiredFlyGuy." OFG
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You need to compare the cost of the contract, not simply plane-to-plane. Bottom line is the UA contract pays its pilots collectively 14.5% more than ours. Don't miss the forest thru the trees by focusing on specific plane-to-plane comparisons. Different fleets/sizes render 1-to-1 comparisons inaccurate.
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