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Old 01-31-2016 | 01:29 PM
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preach it, brother Ghillis!
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Old 01-31-2016 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 4fans
So when is 3b4 triggered again?
18 month rolling calendar, and the next time we'll see the noncons get restless is when they see our 2017 PS check estimations at the end of this year. The company can skirt that by giving them a bonus but bonuses cannot be counted as part of ptix (one time special expense) so it wouldnt affect our payout.
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Old 01-31-2016 | 01:39 PM
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So... What does all of this mean for a new hire awaiting Indoc? Lots of military new hires entering this world of contracts, etc... Rather wide-eyed... Thoughts?
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Old 01-31-2016 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TCPHOENIX
So... What does all of this mean for a new hire awaiting Indoc? Lots of military new hires entering this world of contracts, etc... Rather wide-eyed... Thoughts?
It means follow the mentorship of your fellow brothers and sisters flying the line. We'll take care of you. Your job will be to get through training and get through probation, smile, and learn the contract. We'll need you after probation.
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Old 01-31-2016 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TCPHOENIX
So... What does all of this mean for a new hire awaiting Indoc? Lots of military new hires entering this world of contracts, etc... Rather wide-eyed... Thoughts?
As a military retiree, this is different. It's a job. You are an employee. That said, overall Delta is a good company to work for. Most of what you will hear about the contract will be from those holding views at either extreme. Do your research and search for those who are in the middle and willing to discuss both sides, then make up your mind about what you think is the right thing to do.
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Old 01-31-2016 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TCPHOENIX
So... What does all of this mean for a new hire awaiting Indoc? Lots of military new hires entering this world of contracts, etc... Rather wide-eyed... Thoughts?
It means nothing to you. Hardly means anything to us right now anyways. DALPA folks and DAL folks will do their job.
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Old 01-31-2016 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by waldo135
As a military retiree, this is different. It's a job. You are an employee. That said, overall Delta is a good company to work for. Most of what you will hear about the contract will be from those holding views at either extreme. Do your research and search for those who are in the middle and willing to discuss both sides, then make up your mind about what you think is the right thing to do.
Great advice. Having been thru 2 mergers and 1 strike, the best advice I could give is don't panic and keep you family (especially your wife or husband) informed. There will be strong opinions on both sides of the debate. Stay educated. Stay calm and stay focused. It will all get resolved sooner or later and life will eventually return to some resemblance of normal
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Old 01-31-2016 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TCPHOENIX
So... What does all of this mean for a new hire awaiting Indoc? Lots of military new hires entering this world of contracts, etc... Rather wide-eyed... Thoughts?
The other half are new hires with decade plus exposure to negotiations at the regional level. Where management plays three card Monty with airplanes, essentially leaving them powerless. The muzzle comes off these old dogs now that they're at the Majors.
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Old 01-31-2016 | 02:37 PM
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It means the rah rah you will hear from the company is lip service. Delta is corporate America and profits are the bottom line. We're pretty much an expense on the ledger. Do what's best for you and your family at all times with regard to DAL.
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Old 01-31-2016 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
It means the rah rah you will hear from the company is lip service. Delta is corporate America and profits are the bottom line. We're pretty much an expense on the ledger. Do what's best for you and your family at all times with regard to DAL.
So if you had another option, and you were just entering the business, would you go elsewhere versus wading into this fray?
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