Delta's RA Considering C-Series Order
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Delta's RA Considering C-Series Order
I think the CS300 (seats 130+ pax) would fit great between the 717 and the A320/737-800... RA has said he is a big fan of the GTF engine too. The C-Series is in a different league when compared to the E190. With Bombardier's willingness to negotiate for a big order, and Republic's inability to use their CS300 orders/options due to restrictive scope, now is probably a great time to do a deal............ SWISS is scheduled to receive CS100s in the next few months and CS300s 6 months later to fly intra-Europe routes.
Article was posted 3 hours ago:
Richard Anderson: Delta seriously considering CSeries | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Great video showing the upcoming SWISS C-Series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9yWF9cCVJY
More C-Series background information:
C Series | Technology - Commercial aircraft - Bombardier
Article was posted 3 hours ago:
Richard Anderson: Delta seriously considering CSeries | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Great video showing the upcoming SWISS C-Series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9yWF9cCVJY
More C-Series background information:
C Series | Technology - Commercial aircraft - Bombardier
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I think the CS300 (seats 130+ pax) would fit great between the 717 and the A320/737-800... RA has said he is a big fan of the GTF engine too. The C-Series is in a different league when compared to the E190. With Bombardier's willingness to negotiate for a big order, and Republic's inability to use their CS300 orders/options due to restrictive scope, now is probably a great time to do a deal............ SWISS is scheduled to receive CS100s in the next few months and CS300s 6 months later to fly intra-Europe routes.
Article was posted 3 hours ago:
Richard Anderson: Delta seriously considering CSeries | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Great video showing the upcoming SWISS C-Series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9yWF9cCVJY
More C-Series background information:
C Series | Technology - Commercial aircraft - Bombardier
Article was posted 3 hours ago:
Richard Anderson: Delta seriously considering CSeries | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Great video showing the upcoming SWISS C-Series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9yWF9cCVJY
More C-Series background information:
C Series | Technology - Commercial aircraft - Bombardier
Last edited by notEnuf; 01-19-2016 at 11:11 AM.
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Hopefully Delta and Bombardier will work together to cobble together a mutually-beneficial deal. Who knows - some people are saying the bigger CS300 could be used as a potential MD88 replacement....
Now, given that we are all pilots and not the bean counters or negotiators, I wanted to share a snippet from an interesting article related to the C-Series FBW design and the use of the sidesticks which is different from the traditional Airbus FBW. It sounds like Bombardier spent a lot of time interviewing and working with pilots to create a pilot-friendly cockpit. See below:
(Excerpt from this Aviation Week article: Bombardier To Staff: Help Design CSeries Flight Deck | AWIN content from Aviation Week):
With the autopilot turned off, the attributes of the modified C* (C-star) FBW design quickly become clear. While a basic C* FBW blends g force and pitch rate to control the pitch axis, Bombardier modified the control system to be speed-stable, meaning that it attempts to maintain a speed set by the pilot using the trim switches at the top of the sidestick. The commanded speed shows up as a speed “bug,” or pointer, on the speed tape in the PFD. The energy-based control design mimics the basics of how pilots learn to fly: Set the desired power level and hold the correct pitch of the nose with the elevator to capture a target speed, taking out the pressure on the control yoke with the elevator trim control. When trimmed out, the aircraft will attempt to maintain that speed despite changes in power. If the power is greater than needed, the aircraft will climb, and vice versa, but the speed will attempt to remain constant. “It's much more intuitive and flies much more like a conventional aircraft,” says Dewar. “Compared to the Airbus FBW, where you trim to an attitude and it holds it, here you trim to an airspeed.”
Additionally, this is a good look at the flight deck for both the CS100 and the bigger CS300 (basically the same advanced cockpit you would find in the latest Global Express bizjet) from one of the test pilots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndEtYyMbSY8
Now, given that we are all pilots and not the bean counters or negotiators, I wanted to share a snippet from an interesting article related to the C-Series FBW design and the use of the sidesticks which is different from the traditional Airbus FBW. It sounds like Bombardier spent a lot of time interviewing and working with pilots to create a pilot-friendly cockpit. See below:
(Excerpt from this Aviation Week article: Bombardier To Staff: Help Design CSeries Flight Deck | AWIN content from Aviation Week):
With the autopilot turned off, the attributes of the modified C* (C-star) FBW design quickly become clear. While a basic C* FBW blends g force and pitch rate to control the pitch axis, Bombardier modified the control system to be speed-stable, meaning that it attempts to maintain a speed set by the pilot using the trim switches at the top of the sidestick. The commanded speed shows up as a speed “bug,” or pointer, on the speed tape in the PFD. The energy-based control design mimics the basics of how pilots learn to fly: Set the desired power level and hold the correct pitch of the nose with the elevator to capture a target speed, taking out the pressure on the control yoke with the elevator trim control. When trimmed out, the aircraft will attempt to maintain that speed despite changes in power. If the power is greater than needed, the aircraft will climb, and vice versa, but the speed will attempt to remain constant. “It's much more intuitive and flies much more like a conventional aircraft,” says Dewar. “Compared to the Airbus FBW, where you trim to an attitude and it holds it, here you trim to an airspeed.”
Additionally, this is a good look at the flight deck for both the CS100 and the bigger CS300 (basically the same advanced cockpit you would find in the latest Global Express bizjet) from one of the test pilots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndEtYyMbSY8
Last edited by David Puddy; 01-19-2016 at 06:17 PM.
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IDK if he is serious or not, but it throws one more competitor into the field. RA likes cheap planes, more competition will likely get him whatever plane it is he really wants for less than he'd have paid if he didn't make that statement.
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The possible Delta fleet in 2 years:
772
350
333
332
764
763ER
763
753
75ER
752
739
738
73N
321
320
319
M90
M88
C300
E190
712
E175
E170
CR9
CR7
E145
CR2
I know I'm missing something not to mention the dozen varieties of 752s.
What we need is the A346. Just to make it that much more awesome.
772
350
333
332
764
763ER
763
753
75ER
752
739
738
73N
321
320
319
M90
M88
C300
E190
712
E175
E170
CR9
CR7
E145
CR2
I know I'm missing something not to mention the dozen varieties of 752s.
What we need is the A346. Just to make it that much more awesome.
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