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Moondog 04-22-2016 02:39 PM

IA question
 
I have a question about rotations that are awarded with the 'A' designation. It was my understanding that those are inverse assignments and are awarded from most junior to senior via a robocall. How is it folks senior to me are getting them and my phone hasn't rang about any of them. Am I missing something?

Scoop 04-22-2016 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Moondog (Post 2114951)
I have a question about rotations that are awarded with the 'A' designation. It was my understanding that those are inverse assignments and are awarded from most junior to senior via a robocall. How is it folks senior to me are getting them and my phone hasn't rang about any of them. Am I missing something?



Well if you were legal to do it you should have been called. I would run the rotation in question through the rules auditor and see what it says.

With that being said IAs are not something that we as Pilots put in for as they are generally thought of as "grabbing" a Pilot who did not want to fly and "obligating" him to fly. Hard to claim damage from not being forced to do something.

Finally I know how you feel - there are times when I would appreciate an IA call like this month where I am only at 58 hours and a GS would be meaningless but I would consider a IA.

Scoop

Ray Red 04-22-2016 02:59 PM

I got an IA with a trip in open time that was scheduled to show in less than an hour. Never got a phone call, but I picked up the phone to see if they still needed it covered.

I might have not gotten a phone call because I was suppose to be in call for the next day and that might have eliminated me from how the phone calls normally go out.

notEnuf 04-22-2016 05:11 PM

I think the robot call hits everyone at the same time who is eligible. The first call my be nanoseconds before the last one but they seem to hit at the same time. (When your 3 beers into a good day on the boat with a friend in the same category)

contrails 04-22-2016 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2115037)
I think the robot call hits everyone at the same time who is eligible. The first call my be nanoseconds before the last one but they seem to hit at the same time. (When your 3 beers into a good day on the boat with a friend in the same category)

That is what happens.

It calls everyone at once.

Not really "inverse" anything.

Moondog 04-23-2016 04:43 AM

So it's possible that someone grabs it before my phone rings and therefore my phone never rings? Seems odd.

GucciBoy 04-23-2016 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Moondog (Post 2115182)
So it's possible that someone grabs it before my phone rings and therefore my phone never rings? Seems odd.



In theory it calls at the same time, so you should get a call even if someone calls back for it immediately or gets crazy and actually picks up. Also, once they get to IA, it's anyone's trip because it assumes you don't have a green slip request in icrew. If you did and were legal, you should've gotten the GS call before the trip went to IA.

WhatNow 04-23-2016 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by GucciBoy (Post 2115227)
In theory it calls at the same time, so you should get a call even if someone calls back for it immediately or gets crazy and actually picks up. Also, once they get to IA, it's anyone's trip because it assumes you don't have a green slip request in icrew. If you did and were legal, you should've gotten the GS call before the trip went to IA.

Not true . IA's have to be covered in accordance with the contract. If it's more then 3 hours out and you did not get a call you are due single pay and credit for the trip if you were the pilot who should receive the award. Under 3 hours they still have to robo call you but they don't have to wait 10 minutes so it becomes the first to call back.


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