Everyone's situation is different. My W2 is absolutely not a QOL for me, and I'd take the current rates for the rest of my career if it meant significantly better time off, ability to drop, training credit and improved scope. My pre-Delta career put my family's retirement in good shape and my wife has great part time income. We know many families whose W2s double ours - they are no happier and they long to have our time off with family. To each their own, but I'm certainly not omitting anything.

 

Historically you would be correct. The failure of the old regime was to pivot to the future. There are too many "back when" arguments used that are now irrelevant. That is not to say you are irrelevant.

That group did a service during bankruptcy. Moak held strong and called for a strike vote to set a wall on the companies deep takes. That was entirely appropriate then because it was a matter of survival and limiting damages. There was only one real choice to cooperate, for the survival of the company.

The problem was to take that policy and to continue it beyond its useful time. We are now in equally unprecedented times but to our advantage and a polar opposite from bankruptcy. To allow this situation to pass without an equally strong stand would be a shame. Promises were made for our recovery in the form of profit sharing, which is all that remains to reclaim retirements and lost wages. Returning to pilots pay rates independently of concessions is appropriate and overdue.

The future of this corporation and the industry is very different from its past. It's time to look forward. The "we used to..." is over. Ed Bastian is a board member on 4 other airline boards, that should tell you all you need to know.

 

[QUOTE=WhatNow;2133431]We never lost our trip rig. It's been 1 for 3.5 for the last 30 years.

Ok but we had other rigs also that I thought changed. I just don't remember flying the 3 day 10.5 trips on C2000 but If you were flying them then they must have been here.

Scoop

 

If we get a large raise you can simply drop more flying and work less.

 

Doesn't there have to be adequate coverage for that? I don't think I could drop a trip in June if I wanted to.

 

Have you looked at reserve coverage lately?

That statement is hilarious given your other statements about staffing. Some times you make the board really entertaining.

 

There is not a thing in the world preventing you from flying 72 hours/month right now. Nothing.

 

If we also say that I can drop anything I want to in spite of reserve coverage or any other limiting factor (kind of like FedEx at any time other than peak), I'm all in! But frankly, the company is so far behind on manning that I don't see that as a possibility in the next three years.

 

Well, if you can't drop a trip because of "Capped Reserve Days," an 84 hr ALV kinda does prevent you from flying a 72 hour month.

 

Nothing except 5day trips that must touch a Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, which means no drops because weekend staffing is at the minimum. Oh, and the 84 hr. ALV with min lines minimized and the threshold set to 88. But other than that, yes you're right.

We are living it every day. Do you really think your statement has any value?