JV Settlement A Must Read
 

If you want to read an excellent example of precise and unambiguous legal drafting, you should read the attached JV Settlement Agreement. It was written by seasoned legal professionals, experts in contract law.

Unfortunately for the DAL pilots though, these experts were sitting opposite from Mike Donatelli and Hartley Phinney.

It will only take a couple of minutes of your time to read. As you read each line, ask yourself "who benefits from this provision"?

You don't have to be a lawyer to recognize just how one sided the Settlement Agreement is.

How is it that Donatelli and Phinney agreed, on their own without MEC input or approval, to such a lopsided “deal” and then kept the terms of that “deal” secret from both the MEC and the pilot group? Can someone explain that to me?


Attached Files

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Can you copy and paste a link for the pdf?

I don't have time now time to post it now - but it is available on Chit Chat.

Scoop

Alright, I'm going in. Cover me!

Whats chit chat?

It's also available on the Delta pilot website, been there since August of last year. You can find several grievance resolutions posted there, including the Duty Rig grievance, by going to Committees>Contract Administration>Grievance Resolutions.

Before reading this, I thought it was perfectly reasonable for the union to be demanding retirement contributions from the company above and beyond the $30M settlement. But paragraph 6H pretty much closes that door, and Donatelli signed it. What am I missing?

It's the cat being electrocuted and his friend(s) vs everyone else forum. :D

Quite possibly the best description to date!

I didn't think the union was demanding retirement contributions from the $30m settlement. I thought the issue was whether the $30m was subject to profit sharing.

CA Bulletin 16-05 Status of the Profit Sharing Grievances : "The MEC Chairman filed grievance 16-01 over the exclusion of the Delta/Air France/KLM/Alitalia JV settlement distribution monies in the computation of pilots’ annual compensation during the 2015 profit sharing year."

Is there a grievance involving DC contributions?

I think it became apparent to everyone that Donatelli was just an extension of Delta mgmt. Unfortunately, it took just a little too long to get him out..Besides being a horrible deal, the JV settlement has also really taken leverage away from us now in negotiations.

This place on steroids.

Its like the old "Hangar Talk" from the DALPA forum. Mostly hijacked by 40 or so guys who are responsible for 80-90% of the posts. Used to be very partisan and divisive (N vs. S, ALPA vs. DPA, pro/con TA). I was literally on it for 1 day and couldn't take the constant BS. Especially Plouffe's dynamic seniority list:eek::eek::eek:. Stay away, you'll get everything you need here and your life will be fuller!!!

Good description, so in order to prevent APC from devolving into something like that lets keep our post based on policies and facts and minimize the use of personal attacks/insults.

Scoop :)

that will happen as long as you agree with the collective. ;)

Or should I have said those most vocal?

I think that most here can identify those who are vending "Wolf Tickets."

Communist wuss.

My favorite part of chit chat is

A) You still have Carl Spackler.

B) You still have Timbo, the only 777A that knows the rest of the words for this song:

https://media.giphy.com/media/xTiTni...CGjK/giphy.gif

Which by the way is:

1. aw yeah...
2. Look at me
3. ****** ****er
4. ****** ****ing
5. ****
6. ****
7. ****
8. Nautical

/keeping it real with the cool kids from... 7 years ago

Flying the line makes someone grumpy.

Looks like the shocked cat crashed in one post again.

https://cretoniatimesdotcom.files.wo...ooded-road.jpg

Was our scope compliance guy (some here know as BB) in agreement with this settlement? All crickets on this crappy deal.

He hard-sold pretty much every scope giveaway the Moakists executed.

At some point he departed from his "scope hawk" persona to board the Moak train fast track.

Now he tries to revise history and rehab his prospects.