$20 says it's the Death Star.

 

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Wow. Nice to see that the harassment runs across all bases. Sad.

 

Sounds like it's time for an ALPA Rep escort to all probationary meetings. This jackwad should be sacked for attempting to illegally influence one's federally-protected right to take military leave, and for insinuating the company should illegally discriminate in hiring. Crossing those lines in an official meeting representing Delta Air Lines also demonstrates terrible judgement. That individual has no place in the CPO, and I'd frankly report the activity to HR.

 

The company can "audit" all they want. The only thing you have to do is comply with federal law. Anything above and beyond that is voluntary. Written or verbal notice prior(with some exceptions). More than 30 days provide documentation. Dot

 

No! You can't do that.

Agree 100%. When I worked at Delta, I never gave advance notice of anything UNTIL I had orders in hand. Why? Just as you said. I always got burned. But once you had orders, I put the MLOA on the schedule. I also told my unit, once I drop MLOA, the unit's hands were now tied so that if my trip/TDY/whatever didn't happen, they would need to find something for me to do for the lost days at work.

You CAN NOT be on civilian and military status at the same time! Please see your local JAG about this. I'm not an expert but this is a huge no no. Fullofluv and Paok know people who were effed by this. I do too. We had an entire unit that was practically "double dipping" and it sparked a Congressional investigation.

Exactly.

Correct. USERRA has a great website with several helpful items: fact sheets, training CBTs, guides, and handouts.

Just follow the law and you can not be fired. If you don't follow the law, you can be fired.

 

It goes beyond an ignorant/hostile non-Reservist mil retiree CPO (believe it or not, the never-Reserves separated/retired folks can be quite hostile to SELRES folks). It's HR too. Let's just say I spoke with a buddy about his recent interview as a current Reservist and they went full retard in the panel with questions about his membership in the SELRES. 10 minute grilling about recent duty status, expectation on how he was to handle changes in status in order to accommodate Delta training, expected extent of his future participation considering his resume did not reveal any other concurrent civilian employment (aka they were probing about his bum/trougher status). I get it, they know about the military reserves and how that game is played, but so much as asking these things is a Big, huge, foul. That's illegal and HR should know better.

And no, my bud didn't get the job. Gee surprise surprise. If you guys want to be pollyannas and think the company isn't behaving this way because of the blue falcons dropping 3-year AGRs as probies at the expense of their brothers sitting outside in the interview room, then keep burying your heads in the sand. Got it, F and U because I got mine. The american way.

I've said many times before with my own personal experience with the process, potential employers wipe their rear with USERRA, banking on member's ignorance of the law, and their predisposition to play ball to get the coveted airline job, in order to get away with it. The problem is that in order to make that trespass on the part of the company actionable, you'd have to record it and then take them to court in order to prove you didn't get hired because of military discrimination. It's a tall order and in practice nobody goes that route, so the company gets away with breaking the law. I'm not being flippant, that is a serious accusation, but the stuff they're pulling is gonna get them in trouble one day.

My position is the same as it always has. You're not asking, you're telling. My only disagreement is with the long tour MLOA while on probation folks. But don't misunderstand, that's a personal difference of opinion I hold, not to be conflated with the absolute legal right members have to drop long tour MLOA on a civilian employer within the constraints of the USERRA protected time-spans at any point in their employment with said employer. That's the law.

 

I'd highly recommend joining the Reserve Officer's Association to any drilling reservist or guardsman. The guy that basically wrote USERRA works for ROA, and he answers his phone. (At least he did 8 years ago). He loves going after companies that mess around with reservists.

 

Posted this on another thread, and got a PM with some good info, but realized it's more appropriate to ask it here:

About to contact Mother-D to give them my return date from extended Mil-Leave (24 Months), anyone have any info on return process?

Re-bid base/airframe?
Time to class up for training?
Do I have to attend an Indoc?

Any gouge would be appreciated.

 

Welcome back!

This was about 4 years ago, but after being gone for 30 months, I gave them a 30 day notice when I was coming off orders. I talked to LI in pilot leaves. She told me where they wanted to put me, but per the contract I picked where and what my senority could hold and was assigned there. Since I was going back to the 73N and was only off it for 30 months, I got the normal re-qual course. There was no in-doc. The timing was that I had a maybe a week from the end of my orders to training. They wasted no time. I had not flown the whole time I was on MLOA and was worried, but they did not care. After 4 sims, LOE, TOE and I was flying the line about 3 weeks after start! I guess they really wanted me on that 4th of July trip...

 

Welcome back! First, read the DOL rules on returning from mil leave. https://www.dol.gov/vets/usc/vpl/usc38.htm#4312. Delta has a mil leave guide as well.

When you're ready to return, provide the company a 30 day letter with signature stating your name, emp #, category, date you are available and contact information. You also need to send in orders if you haven't already.

Time to training is dependent on the training pipeline.

I don't remember the rules on indoc, but I'm sure that's in a Delta reg somewhere. I want to guess that it's required if you've been out for 3+ years.

The big thing here is to know what the rules are in regards to returning from long term mil leave. I can't stress enough the importance of reading the rules yourself.

The return to Delta was a good experience for me. The training was well done, the LCA's were great, and it's been fun to be back. Enjoy.