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Old 06-18-2016, 04:58 PM
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A lot to read and learn from here....

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"The captain stated the airplane’s nose broke through the fence on the wall and they could see the drop off and the water below as they came to a stop"

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Whose boys and girls?

There, their, they're. They all sound the same.

Nails on a chalkboard.
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Whose boys and girls?

There, their, they're. They all sound the same.

Nails on a chalkboard.
I used two feel like this. But grammar correctors have become the new nails on the chalkboard. In the age of autocorrect and voice-to-text, if you let improper substitutions bother you, ewe are doomed. Maybe I'm doomed letting corrections like your's bother me, but their quiet obnoxious.

What correcting other people?s grammar really says about you
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Mandatory reading, especially for 88 drivers. That airport is full of challenges on a good day.
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Old 06-19-2016, 08:10 AM
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Mandatory reading, especially for 88 drivers. That airport is full of challenges on a good day.
Look at the FDR, I think it was page 6 and about 38 pages or so. Look at the reverse epr. Damn things.

But it also shows the reverse epr on previous flights of that ship and one other and plots them. Rarely 1.3 or under.
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Originally Posted by TED74 View Post
I used two feel like this. But grammar correctors have become the new nails on the chalkboard. In the age of autocorrect and voice-to-text, if you let improper substitutions bother you, ewe are doomed. Maybe I'm doomed letting corrections like your's bother me, but their quiet obnoxious.

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It's third grade English. I guess that's too much to ask. But, we do deserve a big raze.
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Old 06-19-2016, 08:49 AM
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Look at the FDR, I think it was page 6 and about 38 pages or so. Look at the reverse epr. Damn things.

But it also shows the reverse epr on previous flights of that ship and one other and plots them. Rarely 1.3 or under.
The Mad Dog has a long history of sliding off snowy or wet runways. It has the worst anti skid, the worst auto brakes, the worst auto spoiler and the worst reverse thrust of any fleet. I believe this crew was led into a trap, they asked for breaking action reports before they ever left ATL, and continued to ask all the way to LGA.

They pop out of the goo and the runway was white, not black. What does that tell you about the breaking action? They were told it was "Good" and that the runway had just been treated, yet the runway was covered with snow...
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The Mad Dog has a long history of sliding off snowy or wet runways. It has the worst anti skid, the worst auto brakes, the worst auto spoiler and the worst reverse thrust of any fleet. I believe this crew was led into a trap, they asked for breaking action reports before they ever left ATL, and continued to ask all the way to LGA.

They pop out of the goo and the runway was white, not black. What does that tell you about the breaking action? They were told it was "Good" and that the runway had just been treated, yet the runway was covered with snow...
I'd say we got lucky on this one. Impressed the FO just shut them down to reduce thrust. Not sure if it helped or not, but who trains for this? Yikes
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
The Mad Dog has a long history of sliding off snowy or wet runways. It has the worst anti skid, the worst auto brakes, the worst auto spoiler and the worst reverse thrust of any fleet. I believe this crew was led into a trap, they asked for breaking action reports before they ever left ATL, and continued to ask all the way to LGA.

They pop out of the goo and the runway was white, not black. What does that tell you about the breaking action? They were told it was "Good" and that the runway had just been treated, yet the runway was covered with snow...
Look on the efb at those incident reports they just put on there. There are two on 88, one for landing.
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