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gzsg 08-26-2016 01:51 PM

Poisoning The Well
 
Ed's decision to continue down the path of a zero sum, cost neutral contract is poisoning the well and destroying the relationship between Delta management and the pilots.

The .........................are out in force to sell cost neutral yet again. This is nothing new for for the pilots we have hired. If anything, they are stronger then we are.

Delta executive compensation is almost up 1000% since Chapter 11. All we can hope for is to reach hourly rates that are 12 years old with no adjustment for inflation and 30 minutes of pay, no credit vacation in exchange for the aips, more 76 seat jets at DCI and scope JV concessions.

And still we have the .......................... working full time to settle for even less.

And I opposed to this?

You bet your sweet &&& I am.

Executive greed run amuck.

badflaps 08-26-2016 02:56 PM

When are you going to realize Ed is a short timer. Much like the Honey Badger.

Hank Kingsley 08-26-2016 03:09 PM

Preaching to the choir. I've perusing a couple categories I'm planning on bidding. The daily trip coverage is amazing, dozens of pilots on their GS #2, many more on GS #1. The well is fine.

tunes 08-26-2016 05:43 PM

Not to mention same day white slips with around two hours from report


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gowabunga 08-26-2016 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 2189227)
Preaching to the choir. I've perusing a couple categories I'm planning on bidding. The daily trip coverage is amazing, dozens of pilots on their GS #2, many more on GS #1. The well is fine.

Once again, as long as we grab green slips and additional flying white slips, the company will win. Fly the contract, don't extend your duty day past the minimum. Stop going the extra mile......
Amazing

gowabunga 08-26-2016 07:08 PM

Hope I'm reading you wrong Hank

Hank Kingsley 08-26-2016 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by gowabunga (Post 2189327)
Hope I'm reading you wrong Hank

I believe in family time, stay home and enjoy the summer. Or the rest of 2016.

chuck416 08-27-2016 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by gowabunga (Post 2189325)
Once again, as long as we grab green slips and additional flying white slips, the company will win. Fly the contract, don't extend your duty day past the minimum. Stop going the extra mile......
Amazing

Agreed. How? Or rather, what is the strategy to get the seniority list line guy(s)/gal(s) get onboard? Disclaimer: I do fly G/S when the occasion arises, and nobody has once given me grief. If the mantra is "Don't"---I'd be totally on-board.
In our '98 negotiations (nwa), 'fly the contract' was the average line pilot's perspective. Do your job, not the other employee's job. The '98 contract was pretty decent. We most certainly did not get all that we wanted. But we absolutely got all that we had to have. Scope was under bombardment by management (Gary Wilson, at the time), and he wanted ALL the DC-9 fleet (150+ a/c, at the time) to be operated under a 'Song' type subsidy. Our negotiations resulted in keeping the -9s in the contract, and modest increases in compensation. It certainly did help that we had a Presidential administration that was actively involved in the process. So, again, what's the strategy? Honest question...

deadseal 08-27-2016 06:21 AM

Fly the contract, no more imho. At least that's what I do


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