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11-09-2017, 02:54 PM

#1731

WhiskeyDelta

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Originally Posted by ItnStln

I'm curious what airlines use age? Do they go oldest to youngest or youngest to oldest?

My former regional still uses age, oldest to youngest.

11-09-2017, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by contrails

I think it'd be less about disinterest from those who apply and end up going elsewhere before they are offered an interview, and more about the people who do indoc, FPTs, simulators, 50 hours of IOE and a line check and then fly the line for three weeks and quit for FDX. That's not exactly a good use of training resources, is it?

Might be true if it were happening. Delta's retention rate for new hires is virtually 100%. We are also poaching from all the other airlines.

11-09-2017, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Might be true if it were happening. Delta's retention rate for new hires is virtually 100%. We are also poaching from all the other airlines.

dont sugar coat something that isn't true. We have people leaving here at the same rate we are poaching from UA and AA. Southwest I believe we have more coming over than leaving to go there.

11-10-2017, 03:57 AM

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Even the military uses age to determine who outranks who. it rarely matters, but I know of three people in basic training, same AFSC that ended up at the same first duty station. So, birthday did determine who outranked who.

Personally, I would like to see seniority in class applied like so using “ageism”. Or something like this.

1. ALPA (argument could be made for this to be 2)
2. Wholly owned
3. Delta Regional
4. All Others

11-10-2017, 04:47 AM

#1735

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ItnStln

I'm curious what airlines use age? Do they go oldest to youngest or youngest to oldest?

American Airlines uses age, with the oldest being the most senior. At least they didn back in 2014.

11-10-2017, 05:24 AM

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BobZ

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Wow...now just to get hired at 64 and 364 days....and be #1!!!

11-10-2017, 05:25 AM

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sailingfun

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Originally Posted by tunes

dont sugar coat something that isn't true. We have people leaving here at the same rate we are poaching from UA and AA. Southwest I believe we have more coming over than leaving to go there.

According to flight ops hiring report we hired 932 pilots in 2017 as of 1 Nov. 944 remain on the seniority list. Clearly we did not gain 12 bodies so there is a error in the 932 number but regardless new hire attrition is not a issue.

11-10-2017, 05:56 AM

#1738

tunes

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

no one said it's an issue. Don't pretend that it's only people leaving other airlines coming here and people aren't leaving here for other airlines.

11-10-2017, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BobZ

Wow...now just to get hired at 64 and 364 days....and be #1!!!

Can't tell how much of this is comedy, how much is sarcasm and how much is misunderstanding. Certainly no one is suggesting age would drive one's seniority above anyone hired before them. Age to determine one's seniority amongst a group of 20-75 pilots (one class) seems very reasonable to me though.