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Old 08-29-2016, 12:35 PM
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Now if you'll excuse that threadjack, please proceed with the next set of drops!
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Old 08-29-2016, 05:19 PM
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Just an outsider looking in, but any idea why Delta continues to operate so many different types of narrow body? I get the merger as a main influence, but it seems like most other majors examine the combined fleet, then pick one or two and go with them for increased efficiency/flexibly.

Now you're adding the Cseries as well? Seems like that could have been covered by the 737-700 or the miniBus.
Delta's fleet strategy has often been based on being opportunistic on fleet acquisitions. The MD90 fleet was expanded as used airframes came on the market with not much interest. By all accounts Delta put Southwest over a barrel on the 717 leases due to similar lack of competing interest. Delta also took advantage of Bombardier's desperation on the CSeries program. The recent 737-900ER and A321 orders took advantage of the production gaps at Boeing and Airbus as they spool up new engine versions. The result is a varied fleet but the complexity is made feasible by low acquisition costs and the capabilities of TechOps.

With regard to the CSeries, the operating economics are significantly better than the 737 Max 7 even before taking into account the screaming deal Delta reportedly got.
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Old 08-29-2016, 05:19 PM
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Anyone in the know believe the ER will be available to new hires again within the next few months, especially considering the big AE this Fall? It was going to new hires pretty consistently for more than a year.. then stopped. Just curious if it might make its way back to future drops.
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Old 08-29-2016, 05:26 PM
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Anyone in the know believe the ER will be available to new hires again within the next few months, especially considering the big AE this Fall? It was going to new hires pretty consistently for more than a year.. then stopped. Just curious if it might make its way back to future drops.
I flew a trip earlier this month with a Captain instructor. He said they were told to expect new hires in training for the ER this Fall. No further details.
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Old 08-29-2016, 05:33 PM
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Anyone in the know believe the ER will be available to new hires again within the next few months, especially considering the big AE this Fall? It was going to new hires pretty consistently for more than a year.. then stopped. Just curious if it might make its way back to future drops.
I can't answer your question except to say, over the last 3 years, the plan was to park more 757's and 767's but about a year and a half ago, that plan changed rapidly, because of a deal with the NBA and other factors. We ended up extremely short on 7ER crews (FO's mostly) and that is why there were so many new hire slots available over that time period. They have caught up with the ever evolving 7ER fleet plan for now and I won't say it won't be going to new hires, but the fleet is still scheduled to shrink over the coming years, and with all of the crappier assignments being handed out, I would bet the company won't have a shortage of 1-4 year hires looking for a better quality of life than flying 4-5 leg days on a sweaty mad dog. I can say that cause I flew the mad dog. It's hot in the summertime in that cockpit going in and out of ATL all day, every day.
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Old 08-29-2016, 06:02 PM
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I can't answer your question except to say, over the last 3 years, the plan was to park more 757's and 767's but about a year and a half ago, that plan changed rapidly, because of a deal with the NBA and other factors. We ended up extremely short on 7ER crews (FO's mostly) and that is why there were so many new hire slots available over that time period. They have caught up with the ever evolving 7ER fleet plan for now and I won't say it won't be going to new hires, but the fleet is still scheduled to shrink over the coming years, and with all of the crappier assignments being handed out, I would bet the company won't have a shortage of 1-4 year hires looking for a better quality of life than flying 4-5 leg days on a sweaty mad dog. I can say that cause I flew the mad dog. It's hot in the summertime in that cockpit going in and out of ATL all day, every day.
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Old 08-29-2016, 07:46 PM
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Does anyone know the drop for today (8/29/16)?
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Old 08-29-2016, 07:56 PM
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Anyone in the know believe the ER will be available to new hires again within the next few months, especially considering the big AE this Fall? It was going to new hires pretty consistently for more than a year.. then stopped. Just curious if it might make its way back to future drops.
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I flew a trip earlier this month with a Captain instructor. He said they were told to expect new hires in training for the ER this Fall. No further details.
I'm currently in ER training, word is new hires in the fall. I don't think the ER has been on the last AE or two but there were more people who bid off than were back filled. I'd bet a beer we'll see an ER on the next or perhaps following AE, and when that happens it'll probably go to new hires as well (or shortly thereafter).
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:04 PM
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I'm currently in ER training, word is new hires in the fall. I don't think the ER has been on the last AE or two but there were more people who bid off than were back filled. I'd bet a beer we'll see an ER on the next or perhaps following AE, and when that happens it'll probably go to new hires as well (or shortly thereafter).
...and per the wording on the AE's, any spots that are unfilled will be offered to newhires. Which means, the unfilled ER spots should show up in a newhire class or classes in the near future.
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:07 PM
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Does anyone know the drop for today (8/29/16)?
I don't think there was a class today.
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