DAL Class drops
05-08-2019, 06:11 AM
#2961
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Originally Posted by Cosa Nostra
I'm talking about SWA having full classes .. this delay from CJO to class date is killing us, losing a lot of good pilots.
As another poster alluded to - Delta is having no problem filling classes, and can’t imagine they will any time soon.
05-08-2019, 06:17 AM
#2962
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I'm with sidestep. I was at another legacy for 6 months before coming here and it was one of the easiest decisions I've ever made. I know others who left one legacy after 9, 13, 15 and 18 months...if they want to be here, they'll show up.
05-08-2019, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sidestep
Wait, the management team led the airline to a $5B profit last year and they are ‘screwing up’? Maybe, just maybe - they know what they’re doing?
05-08-2019, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
You obviously have not kept up with staffing issues over the last few years. 88, 717, and the 350 to name a few. Which means $$$$ like I said.
05-08-2019, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
You obviously have not kept up with staffing issues over the last few years. 88, 717, and the 350 to name a few. Which means $$$$ like I said.
Management is doing plenty right, but let's be willing to call a spade a spade when (expensive) mistakes are made...
05-08-2019, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sidestep
Wait, the management team led the airline to a $5B profit last year and they are ‘screwing up’? Maybe, just maybe - they know what they’re doing?
For what it's worth, I personally know someone who got hired at SWA and DL, with 6 months until their DL class. They started at SWA and then left for their DL class 6 months later. I'm sure it goes both ways, but that's just the nature of this hiring environment.
05-08-2019, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Agree. How many APU run hours can you buy with the money we spent on 350 pilots' credit during that debacle? I heard one captain pulled in $100k one month?!
Management is doing plenty right, but let's be willing to call a spade a spade when (expensive) mistakes are made...
Management is doing plenty right, but let's be willing to call a spade a spade when (expensive) mistakes are made...
Billions.
And fwiw....it was a $120K month..
05-10-2019, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by sidestep
I’ll concede the 350, but just because a given category is short staffed and there are plenty of GS to go around doesn’t mean it’s a bad business decision.
If you want to make money it's great but for us northerners who like to enjoy our 3 months of summer with as much time off as possible, these classes of 10 are not ideal. I think you are right though, they must have calculated the cost of steady GS awards to be less than the cost of carrying excess reserves, QOL be damned.
05-10-2019, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ4LIFE
Don't forget about the debacle where they massively overstaffed the 320 last summer to the point that they were paying pilots to sit at home, meanwhile the 737 was running a skeleton crew with OOB GSs getting awarded pretty much every day in NYC. And by most indications it looks like this summer will be no different.
If you want to make money it's great but for us northerners who like to enjoy our 3 months of summer with as much time off as possible, these classes of 10 are not ideal. I think you are right though, they must have calculated the cost of steady GS awards to be less than the cost of carrying excess reserves, QOL be damned.
If you want to make money it's great but for us northerners who like to enjoy our 3 months of summer with as much time off as possible, these classes of 10 are not ideal. I think you are right though, they must have calculated the cost of steady GS awards to be less than the cost of carrying excess reserves, QOL be damned.
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