DAL Class drops
08-29-2016, 10:20 PM
#21
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
Originally Posted by JamesBond
Yet something else that we need not worry about.
The market for pilots is rising, and Virginia Avenue is being left behind due to shortsighted mahogany row groupthink.
08-30-2016, 02:25 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: Up front
Posts: 962
Originally Posted by frozentundra
Here's everything since June, I think:
6/6 drop:
ATL MD88 - 8
ATL 717 - 3
DTW 717 - 4
DTW 320 - 6
NYC MD88 - 4
NYC 73N - 3
NYC 320 - 2
6/13 drop:
ATL 717 - 4
ATL MD88 - 6
DTW 320 - 3
NYC 320 - 3
NYC 73N - 2
NYC 717 - 6
NYC MD88 - 6
6/20/16 drop:
LAX 717 - 1
DTW 320 - 2
NYC 320 - 6
NYC 717 - 11
NYC MD88 - 19
7/11/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 5
DTW 717 - 8
DTW 320 - 5
NYC 73N - 1
NYC 320 - 2
NYC 717 - 4
NYC MD88 - 10
7/18/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 7
DTW 320 - 2
NYC 73N - 1
NYC 320 - 6
NYC 717 - 8
NYC MD88 - 10
7/25/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 10
ATL 717 - 10
DTW 320 - 4
NYC 73N - 4
NYC 320 - 6
NYC MD88 - 10
NYC 717 - 10
8/8/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 7
NYC 737 - 4
NYC 320 - 7
NYC MD88 - 6
NYC 717 - 7
8/15/16 drop:
NYC 73N - 7
NYC 320 - 4
NYC MD88 - 13
NYC 717 - 9
8/22/16 drop:
NYC 73N - 10
NYC 320 - 16
NYC MD88 - 16
NYC 717 - 11
6/6 drop:
ATL MD88 - 8
ATL 717 - 3
DTW 717 - 4
DTW 320 - 6
NYC MD88 - 4
NYC 73N - 3
NYC 320 - 2
6/13 drop:
ATL 717 - 4
ATL MD88 - 6
DTW 320 - 3
NYC 320 - 3
NYC 73N - 2
NYC 717 - 6
NYC MD88 - 6
6/20/16 drop:
LAX 717 - 1
DTW 320 - 2
NYC 320 - 6
NYC 717 - 11
NYC MD88 - 19
7/11/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 5
DTW 717 - 8
DTW 320 - 5
NYC 73N - 1
NYC 320 - 2
NYC 717 - 4
NYC MD88 - 10
7/18/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 7
DTW 320 - 2
NYC 73N - 1
NYC 320 - 6
NYC 717 - 8
NYC MD88 - 10
7/25/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 10
ATL 717 - 10
DTW 320 - 4
NYC 73N - 4
NYC 320 - 6
NYC MD88 - 10
NYC 717 - 10
8/8/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 7
NYC 737 - 4
NYC 320 - 7
NYC MD88 - 6
NYC 717 - 7
8/15/16 drop:
NYC 73N - 7
NYC 320 - 4
NYC MD88 - 13
NYC 717 - 9
8/22/16 drop:
NYC 73N - 10
NYC 320 - 16
NYC MD88 - 16
NYC 717 - 11
08-30-2016, 07:46 AM
#23
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: A350 Both
Posts: 7,292
Originally Posted by gloopy
I disagree. We will soon be the laughing stock choice for new hires if, years from now, we're still below Allegiant, no deal in sight, weakest of the legacy airlines for wide body opportunities, the worst vacation and constantly violated scope, speckled over with laughable penalty checks.
The market for pilots is rising, and Virginia Avenue is being left behind due to shortsighted mahogany row groupthink.
The market for pilots is rising, and Virginia Avenue is being left behind due to shortsighted mahogany row groupthink.
09-01-2016, 07:00 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: 767 VEOP
Posts: 507
Originally Posted by Purple Drank
It is our leverage, though. Unless you prefer to ignore it.
You're delusional if you think what new hires think gives us leverage. Who cares? Not the company. They are metric driven and follow every new hire statistic with great interest. If they see a decline in acceptance rates of new hires, they will adjust. So far, according to a buddy in the interview group, this has not happened.
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Or you could explain your understanding of this great leverage we get from new hire disinterest.
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09-01-2016, 07:03 AM
#27
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,943
Originally Posted by KnotSoFast
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You're delusional if you think what new hires think gives us leverage. Who cares? Not the company. They are metric driven and follow every new hire statistic with great interest. If they see a decline in acceptance rates of new hires, they will adjust. So far, according to a buddy in the interview group, this has not happened.
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Or you could explain your understanding of this great leverage we get from new hire disinterest.
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You're delusional if you think what new hires think gives us leverage. Who cares? Not the company. They are metric driven and follow every new hire statistic with great interest. If they see a decline in acceptance rates of new hires, they will adjust. So far, according to a buddy in the interview group, this has not happened.
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Or you could explain your understanding of this great leverage we get from new hire disinterest.
.
09-01-2016, 07:26 AM
#28
Sick of whiners
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: 767 VEOP
Posts: 507
Originally Posted by contrails
I think it'd be less about disinterest from those who apply and end up going elsewhere before they are offered an interview, and more about the people who do indoc, FPTs, simulators, 50 hours of IOE and a line check and then fly the line for three weeks and quit for FDX. That's not exactly a good use of training resources, is it?
My source says that when those events get painful enough, the company will do something. So far it has been completely negligible.
And, as was posted above, it's not my job to worry about such things.
And I still don't see how any new-hire one-off events give US any leverage.
I DO see new leverage in that, as of this week, we are the ONLY major without a contract or TA and we are also the carrier raking in the most massive profit. Thus, there is "uncertainty" here. I don't think the company is thrilled about that and I suspect we might see some progress at the upcoming scheduled negotiating sessions.
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09-01-2016, 08:23 AM
#29
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: 7ERB
Posts: 2,039
Originally Posted by JamesBond
Not really much leverage value there for anybody with more than 6 hours with the company.
These people busted their arse to get on. They are part of the team the minute they wear the uniform. PERIOD> and it should concern you, Mr. pull up the ladder behind you, guy!
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