DAL Class drops
#21
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
I disagree. We will soon be the laughing stock choice for new hires if, years from now, we're still below Allegiant, no deal in sight, weakest of the legacy airlines for wide body opportunities, the worst vacation and constantly violated scope, speckled over with laughable penalty checks.
The market for pilots is rising, and Virginia Avenue is being left behind due to shortsighted mahogany row groupthink.
The market for pilots is rising, and Virginia Avenue is being left behind due to shortsighted mahogany row groupthink.
#22
Here's everything since June, I think:
6/6 drop:
ATL MD88 - 8
ATL 717 - 3
DTW 717 - 4
DTW 320 - 6
NYC MD88 - 4
NYC 73N - 3
NYC 320 - 2
6/13 drop:
ATL 717 - 4
ATL MD88 - 6
DTW 320 - 3
NYC 320 - 3
NYC 73N - 2
NYC 717 - 6
NYC MD88 - 6
6/20/16 drop:
LAX 717 - 1
DTW 320 - 2
NYC 320 - 6
NYC 717 - 11
NYC MD88 - 19
7/11/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 5
DTW 717 - 8
DTW 320 - 5
NYC 73N - 1
NYC 320 - 2
NYC 717 - 4
NYC MD88 - 10
7/18/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 7
DTW 320 - 2
NYC 73N - 1
NYC 320 - 6
NYC 717 - 8
NYC MD88 - 10
7/25/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 10
ATL 717 - 10
DTW 320 - 4
NYC 73N - 4
NYC 320 - 6
NYC MD88 - 10
NYC 717 - 10
8/8/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 7
NYC 737 - 4
NYC 320 - 7
NYC MD88 - 6
NYC 717 - 7
8/15/16 drop:
NYC 73N - 7
NYC 320 - 4
NYC MD88 - 13
NYC 717 - 9
8/22/16 drop:
NYC 73N - 10
NYC 320 - 16
NYC MD88 - 16
NYC 717 - 11
6/6 drop:
ATL MD88 - 8
ATL 717 - 3
DTW 717 - 4
DTW 320 - 6
NYC MD88 - 4
NYC 73N - 3
NYC 320 - 2
6/13 drop:
ATL 717 - 4
ATL MD88 - 6
DTW 320 - 3
NYC 320 - 3
NYC 73N - 2
NYC 717 - 6
NYC MD88 - 6
6/20/16 drop:
LAX 717 - 1
DTW 320 - 2
NYC 320 - 6
NYC 717 - 11
NYC MD88 - 19
7/11/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 5
DTW 717 - 8
DTW 320 - 5
NYC 73N - 1
NYC 320 - 2
NYC 717 - 4
NYC MD88 - 10
7/18/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 7
DTW 320 - 2
NYC 73N - 1
NYC 320 - 6
NYC 717 - 8
NYC MD88 - 10
7/25/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 10
ATL 717 - 10
DTW 320 - 4
NYC 73N - 4
NYC 320 - 6
NYC MD88 - 10
NYC 717 - 10
8/8/16 drop:
ATL MD88 - 7
NYC 737 - 4
NYC 320 - 7
NYC MD88 - 6
NYC 717 - 7
8/15/16 drop:
NYC 73N - 7
NYC 320 - 4
NYC MD88 - 13
NYC 717 - 9
8/22/16 drop:
NYC 73N - 10
NYC 320 - 16
NYC MD88 - 16
NYC 717 - 11
#23
I disagree. We will soon be the laughing stock choice for new hires if, years from now, we're still below Allegiant, no deal in sight, weakest of the legacy airlines for wide body opportunities, the worst vacation and constantly violated scope, speckled over with laughable penalty checks.
The market for pilots is rising, and Virginia Avenue is being left behind due to shortsighted mahogany row groupthink.
The market for pilots is rising, and Virginia Avenue is being left behind due to shortsighted mahogany row groupthink.
#26
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You're delusional if you think what new hires think gives us leverage. Who cares? Not the company. They are metric driven and follow every new hire statistic with great interest. If they see a decline in acceptance rates of new hires, they will adjust. So far, according to a buddy in the interview group, this has not happened.
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Or you could explain your understanding of this great leverage we get from new hire disinterest.
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You're delusional if you think what new hires think gives us leverage. Who cares? Not the company. They are metric driven and follow every new hire statistic with great interest. If they see a decline in acceptance rates of new hires, they will adjust. So far, according to a buddy in the interview group, this has not happened.
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Or you could explain your understanding of this great leverage we get from new hire disinterest.
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#27
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You're delusional if you think what new hires think gives us leverage. Who cares? Not the company. They are metric driven and follow every new hire statistic with great interest. If they see a decline in acceptance rates of new hires, they will adjust. So far, according to a buddy in the interview group, this has not happened.
.
Or you could explain your understanding of this great leverage we get from new hire disinterest.
.
You're delusional if you think what new hires think gives us leverage. Who cares? Not the company. They are metric driven and follow every new hire statistic with great interest. If they see a decline in acceptance rates of new hires, they will adjust. So far, according to a buddy in the interview group, this has not happened.
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Or you could explain your understanding of this great leverage we get from new hire disinterest.
.
#28
I think it'd be less about disinterest from those who apply and end up going elsewhere before they are offered an interview, and more about the people who do indoc, FPTs, simulators, 50 hours of IOE and a line check and then fly the line for three weeks and quit for FDX. That's not exactly a good use of training resources, is it?
My source says that when those events get painful enough, the company will do something. So far it has been completely negligible.
And, as was posted above, it's not my job to worry about such things.
And I still don't see how any new-hire one-off events give US any leverage.
I DO see new leverage in that, as of this week, we are the ONLY major without a contract or TA and we are also the carrier raking in the most massive profit. Thus, there is "uncertainty" here. I don't think the company is thrilled about that and I suspect we might see some progress at the upcoming scheduled negotiating sessions.
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#29
These people busted their arse to get on. They are part of the team the minute they wear the uniform. PERIOD> and it should concern you, Mr. pull up the ladder behind you, guy!
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