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Old 10-07-2019, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorbuc99 View Post
I would *guess* so. The -88's are currently scheduled to retire by the end of 2020 (subject to change as it has numerous times, of course) with something like only a dozen or so -90's flying beyond that.
The 88s will be flying for the next how many years until we get all the 321s. Iíd say for the next 5 years.
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Old 10-07-2019, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cni187 View Post
The 88s will be flying for the next how many years until we get all the 321s. Iíd say for the next 5 years.
IMHO, the 88s/90s are the Ďaccumulatorí/shock absorber/plan b/whatever else you want to call it. They will remain as long as they are needed depending on how demand/deliveries go. 5 years is possible if there is no downturn, the MAX doesnít get fixed and the Airbi are late. If demand tanks, the MAX sucks some of our passengers back to SW/AA etc, then all MDís parked by the end of next year is really likely. Letís hope for the first case.
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FogSkier View Post
IMHO, the 88s/90s are the Ďaccumulatorí/shock absorber/plan b/whatever else you want to call it. They will remain as long as they are needed depending on how demand/deliveries go. 5 years is possible if there is no downturn, the MAX doesnít get fixed and the Airbi are late. If demand tanks, the MAX sucks some of our passengers back to SW/AA etc, then all MDís parked by the end of next year is really likely. Letís hope for the first case.
If only we had a former Delta executive in charge of the regulatory agency responsible for recertifying the MAX....🤔
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Old 10-08-2019, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FogSkier View Post
IMHO, the 88s/90s are the Ďaccumulatorí/shock absorber/plan b/whatever else you want to call it. They will remain as long as they are needed depending on how demand/deliveries go. 5 years is possible if there is no downturn, the MAX doesnít get fixed and the Airbi are late. If demand tanks, the MAX sucks some of our passengers back to SW/AA etc, then all MDís parked by the end of next year is really likely. Letís hope for the first case.
^^^^^This^^^^
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 View Post
If only we had a former Delta executive in charge of the regulatory agency responsible for recertifying the MAX....🤔
He absolutely gushes about unmanned everything and how its the highest glory for humanity. He might make the right decision on the MAX criteria for recert, but once I saw how in the tank he is for labor busting unmanned tech (including future theoretical tech) I will never trust him again. He is not on our side.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:57 AM
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He absolutely gushes about unmanned everything and how its the highest glory for humanity. He might make the right decision on the MAX criteria for recert, but once I saw how in the tank he is for labor busting unmanned tech (including future theoretical tech) I will never trust him again. He is not on our side.
i felt the same way when my job cleaning stables was under threat from the horseless carriage in 1907
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:10 AM
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i felt the same way when my job cleaning stables was under threat from the horseless carriage in 1907
Yeah and any concern about out of control AI including deadly force robocops and unlimited spying = that's the exact same thing as the Ludites!

Its funny how we're being simultaneously told that we desperately need unlimited millions of imported cheap labor (blue and white collar) forever with no limits whatsoever, and also any second now we'll have mass unemployment and need to depend on govt to give us UBI to exist as a species.

Not everything scales infinitely into infinity. Its bad enough when corporations are attempting human replacement at this level, but for our government officials to so loyaly carry their water on this while in many ways leading the charge is sickening.

But yeah, everything is exactly the same as cars replacing horses. Enjoy your YangGang welfare check.
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Old 10-08-2019, 03:19 PM
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i felt the same way when my job cleaning stables was under threat from the horseless carriage in 1907
I think thereís a retirement forum for you somewhere. At your age, you probably would fit right in.
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Old 10-08-2019, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy View Post
Yeah and any concern about out of control AI including deadly force robocops and unlimited spying = that's the exact same thing as the Ludites!

Its funny how we're being simultaneously told that we desperately need unlimited millions of imported cheap labor (blue and white collar) forever with no limits whatsoever, and also any second now we'll have mass unemployment and need to depend on govt to give us UBI to exist as a species.

Not everything scales infinitely into infinity. Its bad enough when corporations are attempting human replacement at this level, but for our government officials to so loyaly carry their water on this while in many ways leading the charge is sickening.

But yeah, everything is exactly the same as cars replacing horses. Enjoy your YangGang welfare check.
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Old 10-08-2019, 05:21 PM
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I was reading a freight rail report. They are all twisted up about dropping the conductor. Just one guy running a 16,000 ft. train. Sounds lonely.
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