DAL Class drops
02-07-2020, 08:31 AM
#3711
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Originally Posted by Baradium
You are so out of touch it's depressing. Most of these other people are likely to know a few people at UAL and will see how hard they actually work there. We have much better reserve rules which is where they will be getting the largest comparison.
You're acting like a bad stereotype of an out of touch mainline pilot who just wants to tell the RJ pilots how bad they'll have it if they ever finally do make it.
You're acting like a bad stereotype of an out of touch mainline pilot who just wants to tell the RJ pilots how bad they'll have it if they ever finally do make it.
02-07-2020, 10:14 AM
#3712
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
I also know people at UAL. None of them fly 5 day trips on a NB, work rules/ QOL stuff were not even close. Sure our reserve rules might be better. But vacation, medical, work rules (other than reserve), DH rules, crew meals just to name a few we lag so far behind them and many others. This golden goose isn't so golden compared to the other geese in the yard.
I don't know what your problem is, but you are not coming across as completely out of touch with what others experience. I mean, you are telling people to stay at regionals rather than come here, which that alone tells me you have absolutely no clue.
02-07-2020, 10:25 AM
#3713
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Originally Posted by Baradium
You're right, our work rules and QOL stuff are generally much better, although there are some things I'd like to get that they have such as deadhead and crew meals. I like 5 day trips as do others, so your whining about that isn't even a QOL item from my perspective.
I don't know what your problem is, but you are not coming across as completely out of touch with what others experience. I mean, you are telling people to stay at regionals rather than come here, which that alone tells me you have absolutely no clue.
I don't know what your problem is, but you are not coming across as completely out of touch with what others experience. I mean, you are telling people to stay at regionals rather than come here, which that alone tells me you have absolutely no clue.
02-07-2020, 10:34 AM
#3714
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
I'm saying they would be better off going to UAL compared to DAL at the moment. Our work rules are not better, you must have not read the contract comparison the union put out. Until we can fix our current contract they would be better off going there than here.
02-07-2020, 10:36 AM
#3715
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
I'm saying they would be better off going to UAL compared to DAL at the moment. Our work rules are not better, you must have not read the contract comparison the union put out. Until we can fix our current contract they would be better off going there than here.
02-07-2020, 05:21 PM
#3716
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Originally Posted by weekendflyer
everything you stated is correct, but this should all get fixed in our next contact. I would still pick delta over United any day...not to mention my profit sharing check is much larger than my counterparts at United.
Totally, Plus no one else has as many buttons and shiny name tags on their blazers...that ought to be enough reason for folks to want to pay for their hotel stay in training and skip on crew meals and take middle seats on DH's without premium pay. Not to mention the smallest widebody fleet of the big 3.
02-07-2020, 06:38 PM
#3717
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
You will work harder than your peers at UAL on first year pay for less $$. Delta doesnt pay for training because they think they are better than everyone else. Thus will pay you less... Delta is the only airline is the US that doesn't pay you actuall training pay nore do they pay for your hotel. Then add in the Gummed up schedules and you'll be begging for your regional contract back... Please donte come to DAL un till we get our new contract...
Delta pilots are on training pay starting Day 1 of Indoc. They then revert to year 1 pay after completion of OE.
A hotel IS provided for the two weeks of Indoc. Newhires must find their own lodging for the rest of training, unless they train off-site, in which case a hotel in provided, as well as per diem.
02-07-2020, 08:47 PM
#3718
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Originally Posted by Broncos
Fake news much?
Delta pilots are on training pay starting Day 1 of Indoc. They then revert to year 1 pay after completion of OE.
A hotel IS provided for the two weeks of Indoc. Newhires must find their own lodging for the rest of training, unless they train off-site, in which case a hotel in provided, as well as per diem.
Delta pilots are on training pay starting Day 1 of Indoc. They then revert to year 1 pay after completion of OE.
A hotel IS provided for the two weeks of Indoc. Newhires must find their own lodging for the rest of training, unless they train off-site, in which case a hotel in provided, as well as per diem.
02-07-2020, 09:57 PM
#3719
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Originally Posted by Busdriver16
Totally, Plus no one else has as many buttons and shiny name tags on their blazers...that ought to be enough reason for folks to want to pay for their hotel stay in training and skip on crew meals and take middle seats on DH's without premium pay. Not to mention the smallest widebody fleet of the big 3.
Last edited by weekendflyer; 02-07-2020 at 10:10 PM.
02-08-2020, 04:36 AM
#3720
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Originally Posted by weekendflyer
everything you stated is correct, but this should all get fixed in our next contact. I would still pick delta over United any day...not to mention my profit sharing check is much larger than my counterparts at United.
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