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Old 02-10-2020, 11:15 PM
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You do understand that my comment about him being out of touch was saying that people would be better off staying at a regional than coming to DAL, right?

There are two things I'd like to get from UAL. Their deadhead rules and crew meal rules. Honestly I don't know of anything else.
Then I am sorry you misunderstood my response. I am just trying to help. Yeah the trips have been gummed up since he has been here. I normally as a line holder get rerouted once a month,and it normally happens on my 30 hr, and then I get converted to two shortly layovers and get nothing more. And yes it makes me angry I am not paid for my loss of trip. Then there is the number of times I have been required to call in fatigued because the operation will not stop until we as pilots say no,even it it results in a violation to me as the certificate holder. Delta has made it painfully known that they will not stand up for me with regards to 117. And they will only throw us under the bus.

But yes UAL better training pay ie 80/month first year rate. They also pay for your hotel for all of your training ...it ends up working out to about 3-5k differenc. When you considering a month of hotel you have to pay for.. Sadly Delta is the last airline to not pay for training but also pay you a proper rate while in training... Every regional or ULCC I have worked for or known of at least has the decenty of paying for your hotel in training...but not delta

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Old 02-10-2020, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wiggy15 View Post
Today's Drop:



3 NYC ER

5 NYC 320

2 NYC 220

4 DTW 717

7 CVG 737


7 CVG 737ís. Really? Not NY?


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Old 02-11-2020, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Baradium View Post
You do understand that my comment about him being out of touch was saying that people would be better off staying at a regional than coming to DAL, right?

There are two things I'd like to get from UAL. Their deadhead rules and crew meal rules. Honestly I don't know of anything else.
-biddable short call
-1hr credit ABOVE rsv guarantee
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Old 02-11-2020, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Der Meister View Post
Then I am sorry you misunderstood my response. I am just trying to help. Yeah the trips have been gummed up since he has been here. I normally as a line holder get rerouted once a month,and it normally happens on my 30 hr, and then I get converted to two shortly layovers and get nothing more. And yes it makes me angry I am not paid for my loss of trip. Then there is the number of times I have been required to call in fatigued because the operation will not stop until we as pilots say no,even it it results in a violation to me as the certificate holder. Delta has made it painfully known that they will not stand up for me with regards to 117. And they will only throw us under the bus.

But yes UAL better training pay ie 80/month first year rate. They also pay for your hotel for all of your training ...it ends up working out to about 3-5k differenc. When you considering a month of hotel you have to pay for.. Sadly Delta is the last airline to not pay for training but also pay you a proper rate while in training... Every regional or ULCC I have worked for or known of at least has the decenty of paying for your hotel in training...but not delta
Iím not willing to give anything in negotiations for new hire hotels because thatís on Delta. Imagine if the FAs or outstation workers as new hires had to come to training in ATL and pay for their own housing during training. This is completely ridiculous. What other fortune 100 (69) does that? Yeah, welcome aboard, BTW...
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Old 02-11-2020, 08:48 AM
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But yes UAL better training pay ie 80/month first year rate.
UAL pays 3 hrs/day, so 90-93 hrs per bid period.
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Old 02-11-2020, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF View Post
BS initially said approx 125/month Jan-May to get 625 pilots on line for Summer 2020.

Then at a base visit last week he said Jan/Feb were on track for the 125/month, but they would incease Mar-May to 150/month.

Summer of 2019, the bottom of the seniority list hovered in the 14,340's.

List is now at 15,540, so already a gain of 100.

2019 averaged 44 retirements a month.So Feb net gain should be 80....Mar-May net gains should be 106.

Appears we will be in the 400-500 net gain ballpark.....big qustion is will that actually be enought to cover the increase in year-over-year summer flying?
Is the current list really at 15,540, I thought it was about 1,000 less than that?
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Old 02-11-2020, 09:04 AM
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Is the current list really at 15,540, I thought it was about 1,000 less than that?
typo...14,540, which is about 100 more than we had summer 2019.
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7 CVG 737ís. Really? Not NY?


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That is correct.
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Old 02-11-2020, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Baradium View Post
You do understand that my comment about him being out of touch was saying that people would be better off staying at a regional than coming to DAL, right?

There are two things I'd like to get from UAL. Their deadhead rules and crew meal rules. Honestly I don't know of anything else.
I want their seat lock rules with all of this kovment coming. Feel like their rules best protect your seniority.
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Old 02-11-2020, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wiggy15 View Post
Today's Drop:

3 NYC ER
5 NYC 320
2 NYC 220
4 DTW 717
7 CVG 737
Anyone know about what went senior and what went junior?
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