How does that compare to UA and AA?

And again, I'm only comparing top of the scale, which for us is 777/747, and 747 will be gone before the end of whatever contract we get, even if we get it by then.

My point is that we can't look at the top paying planes as a baseline. For most pilots that spot on the pay table doesn't mean the same thing it does at AA/UA because they have more pilots flying it for more years. That's all.

We'd also have a bunch of 330s in there as well with the 2X4s. I have no idea how many we have/on order.

I honestly overlooked them. Sorry. That would add another 40 airframes to the top scale.

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Your A330 isn't top band? It is at UAL.

Thanks. Now I am even more depressed.

But at least we have 18-777s. wooo hoooo

The biggest fleet at DAL for the longest time was the 767-300/757. Right after the merger it made up 35% of our metal. I stopped looking after awhile when told that because of productivity the 777 had to be paid the most. I think the interesting number would be to take a look at similar career paths at DAL/UAL and see what the career earnings would be. I would wager that even with a 5% lower pay scale on equivalent metal your career earnings would blow us away.

Nice dodge! The 767 757 still pays 18 dollars per hour more than the 737....if you want to call that widebody pay....have at it..hubris is an epidemic at Delta.

So is denial. Look at the history. One came up to the other.

Nice spin. Prepare for the lawsuit.

I guess I didn't realize how out of whack your banding was compared to ours until you brought that up and I looked. Our 767-400 CAs make $50/hr more currently? That's insane!

But we all know this crazy industry is cyclical and a crapshoot. DAL has been on top of earnings for many of the years (21) I've been at UAL. I will never forget the "Delta Dot" on the 777 setting the standard and setting us up for our contract 2000.

There's a story behind that 76/75 pay band, can't remember it. 767 ought to pay more, but..

In the 2001 contract our table position was for the standard pay differentials on the 767ER, 767-300, 767-200 and 757. There were 4 pay rates. Management in the final stages offered to bring all aircraft up to the 7ER rate. Hard to turn down free money we did not have to negotiate to get but left everyone wondering why. The 7ER received the same raise as other non 3B6 aircraft.