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acl65pilot 08-20-2010 12:25 PM

Sailing is correct, there is another bill in committee in addition to the part of the FAA Re-Authorization bill that asked the FAA to "Study and report back." Either way it is a front burner issue for many and they could give two hoots what it does to your personal life.

acl65pilot 08-20-2010 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 858542)
Yeah I know I was being sarcastic of course. Wouldn't put anything past some people though.

I hope people are right in saying commuter restrictions have died in committee this time around (at least).


It has not died. One is still in committee and the other one is very vague. That does not mean that some knucklehead incident by one of us will make them actually have to report back or have this bill sitting in committee go to the floor overnight. That is why everyone need to realize that their actions effect a group of 100K professional aviators in this country.

johnso29 08-20-2010 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 858538)
There is a bill in congress right now to require rules for commuters. The ATA has not made a peep about it. In fact they often bring up commuting when ALPA pushes for better rest rules. It looks like this bill will die in committee. As I mentioned another accident and it ALPA wont be able to kill it next time.
Pilots can sue all they want. They wont get far. There must have been at least 100 or more lawsuits about age 60 over the years. The courts always ruled the FAA can control items regarding flight safety.
We as pilots don't help ourselves much in this regard also. Most pilots commute so they are properly rested before a trip. We have however many who don't.


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 858543)
Sailing is correct, there is another bill in committee in addition to the part of the FAA Re-Authorization bill that asked the FAA to "Study and report back." Either way it is a front burner issue for many and they could give two hoots what it does to your personal life.

Good thing I can afford 2 houses. :cool:

il0101 08-22-2010 02:03 PM

I wanted to get some input from some DTW and MSP guys. What are the number of crews in MSP on the 320 and the 88; how many in DTW (320)? What does a typical pairing look like on the 320 and the 88? Thanks.

Bill Lumberg 08-22-2010 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by il0101 (Post 859426)
I wanted to get some input from some DTW and MSP guys. What are the number of crews in MSP on the 320 and the 88; how many in DTW (320)? What does a typical pairing look like on the 320 and the 88? Thanks.

The 320/319 fleet flies everywhere in the lower 48, along with some Caribbean and Mexico. (there are even some European Charters for this next month for the NBA I believe, with stops in Iceland) Each 320 base has a mix of day trips, all the way up to 5 day trips worth close to 30 hours. In one 320 trip you may hit every base (MSP, DTW, LAX, MEM, SLC, NYC, ATL, CVG), and there are transcons too like TPA to LAX. The MSP MD90 category flies some ATL MD88 stuff, but also does one stops across the country in MSP mainly. You may start off a 4 day trip on the MD90 going MSP to San Jose, CA with a layover. The next day you go to DCA via MSP. The next day you fly to Bozeman, MT via MSP. And the last day you fly back to MSP, and then to Spokane and back to MSP and you are done. The 320 fleet has a lot of variety, but the MSP MD90 also has good trips, and 18 more MD90s are on the way too, slowly replacing some of the DC9s. The MD90s will eventually be flown at all bases, but right now MSP, CVG, and SLC are the only ones flying them, with NYC getting it next, and ATL last. Either way, both fleets offer some great trips. Some guys love the 320 so much they stay on it for as long as possible, and then go onto the A330. (a bigger 320) They like to say "DELTA" stands for "Don't Ever Leave The Airbus." Good luck!

cni187 08-22-2010 09:15 PM

Sim Training
 
Hey all, another new hire here. Just curious where the training is for the A320, MD-88 and DC-9s?

Going2Baja 08-22-2010 09:20 PM

@CNI - A320 & DC-9 is in MSP at the old NATCO. 88/90 in ATL. Have fun & Enjoy. Say hi to BB & Erin for me!

Baja.

il0101 08-23-2010 05:03 AM

thanks Bill, any idea which one is bigger? dtw 320 or msp?

acl65pilot 08-23-2010 05:14 AM

MSP 320B about 328

DTW 320B about 268

johnso29 08-23-2010 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by il0101 (Post 859627)
thanks Bill, any idea which one is bigger? dtw 320 or msp?


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 859629)
MSP 320B about 328

DTW 320B about 268


MSP 320 is more senior.


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