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sailingfun 07-27-2015 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 1938172)
That FOM was taken directly from the online pubs section on deltanet, not my surface. Not sure I can be more up to date than that, unless the moderators there are using old stuff.

It's a bulletin updating the FOM. Posted above by another poster.
Keep in mind that regardless of what the FOM says the contract governs. Some new hire pilots are confusing the company policy to obtain a PS seat with the actual contractual language which is what would apply in the event of a no show.

Timbo 07-27-2015 09:25 AM

It would be pretty hard for the company to give you a positive space pass to get to work, if your backup choices are on other airlines!

MikeF16 07-27-2015 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by DelDah Capt (Post 1938139)
Actually, the latest update to the FOM Commuting Policy can be found on the Flight Ops page under "headlines". It is dated 18JUN15 and supercedes the change in the MAY FOM change which was published in error. The latest version essentially says that the Primary flight can be on anybody: Delta, DCI, or OAL (Other Airline). The Backup flight is supposed to be on Delta or DCI

Thanks, this is the correct guidance. Either way, the unable to commute policy from DFW for a new hire is treacherous. I don't know how westbound fares, but the ATL and NYC guys I speak with all mention how hard it can be to get a ride mainline. In addition, all the DFW-NYC mainline traffic is DCI, so no reserving the JS. A new hire will have a VERY hard time hitching a ride on an RJ.


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1938162)
You need to update your FOM. That was a inadvertent change corrected since.

I checked both my tablet and online, the version of the FOM I listed is correct.

EDIT: NM, I see you responded above. Missed it when I quoted.

orvil 07-27-2015 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 1938179)
Yeah, no income tax is awesome, but from my research, Washington has above average cost of living and taxes so they must make up for it somewhere. I have seen a few places in Gig Harbor that we could probably swing on the top part of our price range.

I think I'll just have to visit and see.

What about SLC? Is the air quality as bad as everyone says? A few pages back some guys were saying Park City is a great place to live, but I couldn't find any houses less than 700K that weren't a condo. The properties in my price range were empty lots. Also, i hear a lot of different opinions on the strong LDS influence on everything.

The air quality in PC won't be an issue. There won't be any LDS influence if you are in PC. It's a sea of nonconformity. There are areas that cost less surrounding PC that you might want to consider. You need to find a SLC guy to give you an overview. The cost of living is reasonable.

If you are in SLC, the LDS issue won't be a problem while your kids are smaller. But, once they are teenagers, it will affect them. Many activities will be church sponsored and your kids won't be included. I have friends with teenagers and it's a problem.

I left PC 25 years ago. I liked the skiing and the outdoor lifestyle. My wife hated the place. We moved.

iceman49 07-27-2015 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1938174)
Quick question for the new guys...

I've always been a book study-er. Now that we have the tablets, I am finding it harder and harder to study the way I always have. I think I'm transforming into a dinosaur.

Is there a simpler way to study using the tablet?

The Reading Brain in the Digital Age: The Science of Paper versus Screens - Scientific American

4fans 07-27-2015 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1938264)
The air quality in PC won't be an issue. There won't be any LDS influence if you are in PC. It's a sea of nonconformity. There are areas that cost less surrounding PC that you might want to consider. You need to find a SLC guy to give you an overview. The cost of living is reasonable.

If you are in SLC, the LDS issue won't be a problem while your kids are smaller. But, once they are teenagers, it will affect them. Many activities will be church sponsored and your kids won't be included. I have friends with teenagers and it's a problem.

I left PC 25 years ago. I liked the skiing and the outdoor lifestyle. My wife hated the place. We moved.

Yeah, my main goal right now is finding a place my wife is happy with that I can stomach. I know Atlanta has a lot to offer but I'm not loving areas to the south and the north side is good but traffic is killer.

Decisions decisions.

Eck4Life 07-27-2015 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 1938372)
Yeah, my main goal right now is finding a place my wife is happy with that I can stomach. I know Atlanta has a lot to offer but I'm not loving areas to the south and the north side is good but traffic is killer.

Decisions decisions.

If you think the traffic on the north side of Atlanta is bad, steer clear of SEA. It's horrendous. Everybody is forced into the I-5 corridor due to the water on one side and the mountains on the other. The bridges are huge bottlenecks, too.

Bainite 07-27-2015 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Eck4Life (Post 1938438)
If you think the traffic on the north side of Atlanta is bad, steer clear of SEA. It's horrendous. Everybody is forced into the I-5 corridor due to the water on one side and the mountains on the other. The bridges are huge bottlenecks, too.

Yep. I lived in Renton for 7 months and the main arteries become a parking lot every weekday from about 6-9 am and again from 3-7 pm. Loved the beer out there tho... best in the country. Hale's SuperGoose is da Bomb!

buzzpat 07-27-2015 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Eck4Life (Post 1938438)
If you think the traffic on the north side of Atlanta is bad, steer clear of SEA. It's horrendous. Everybody is forced into the I-5 corridor due to the water on one side and the mountains on the other. The bridges are huge bottlenecks, too.

I'll call your SEA and raise you the 405 in LA. Brutal.;)

Scoop 07-27-2015 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1938538)
I'll call your SEA and raise you the 405 in LA. Brutal.;)


True, but its not just "the 405" :D - you can basically draw a 20 mile circle around LAX between 0530 and 0930 and 1430-1930 and most freeways are gridlocked. And by gridlocked I mean dead stopped - pull forward 30 feet, dead stop pull ahead 20 feet - etc. :eek:

Scoop


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