notEnuf

So far this month...

Delta adds to trans-Pacific network with new Virgin Australia route | Delta News Hub

Delta, Korean Air strengthen partnership with new flights to Seoul | Delta News Hub

Delta and Seaborne ease connectivity between U.S., Caribbean | Delta News Hub

JamesBond

We can wait though.

Tanker1497

Wait for what? More top end scope relaxation?

JamesBond

Yeah that's it.

KnotSoFast

Ok, this one is on Virgin. Does not help us at all. Unless we take over that flying when we get 350s
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OK, I give up.... why all the crybaby whining about this one? It's on a freekin' DL 777LR. I thought that was good?
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OK, I give up.... why all the crybaby whining about this one? Two of those airports have runways that are too short for us or RJs to use and the other two are DL mainline stations that we serve non-stop to multiple DL hubs, so why would we want to shuttle between them?


Do you actually READ these things before you post and cry about them? (obviously not)
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notEnuf

It was intended to keep people informed. I fail to see where I whined.

As far as reading comprehension, this is the last paragraph from the Korean Air article: (highlights to help you focus)

Today, Delta offers 14 weekly flights to Seoul Incheon International Airport from its global gateways in Detroit and Seattle. Korean Air offers almost 100 weekly flights to 13 gateways in North America including New York-JFK, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Dallas/Fort Worth, Honolulu, Washington-Dulles, Houston-Intercontinental, Chicago-O’Hare, Seattle, Las Vegas, Vancouver and Toronto.

All of these deals confirm a trend, but keep trying to find a fight to vent your frustration and pent up YES. Take your 100 hours of unverified sick time and get some treatment. I suggest Colorado or Amsterdam.

If you would like to discuss better SCOPE protection that prevent outsourcing or PROFIT SHARING improvements to better benefit from the virtual merger business plan, I'm all ears.

Dharma

neverEnough, When looking at these codeshare agreements it is important to go beyond the press release info. The actual docket filling with the Department of Transportation is where the real info is. From what I read in the Sept. 7, 2016 Korean filing, which I assume is what you are referencing, this is nothing new or extra beyond what has already been approved for years. With one exception:

Delta will codeshare to Da Nang and Nha Trang, Vietnam on Korean and Korean will codeshare on us to Sao Paulo, Brazil. Those are actually the new approval cities that didn't make it into the press release. The rest of the cities were already approved, and have been since the original filing.

Since Vietnam and Brazil don't have open skies agreements with the US or Korea, and we don't have approval to fly to those Vietnamese cities, doesn't it make sense to get access somehow to those passengers to feed into our network?

As you formulate your answer to this, consider the June 7, 2012 DOT approval which almost unilaterally benefits Delta (and mostly Detroit) in the codeshare with Korean. Do you want to give that up?

Bottom line, we should all get the facts before formulating an opinion on codesharing.

notEnuf

The historical norm is changing. The virtual merger business plan will limit growth. We have a small 777 fleet when compared to other airlines. The growth of Delta's international foot print will not be organic increases in large wide-body flying that Delta pilots will operate. The past is just that, the past. More partner fly is actually a much more efficient business plan and has proven successful, which requires its continued use. You don't walk away from successful efficient growth. As international traffic grows it will go to the partners with the larger aircraft and fleet who already have established operations on the routes.

The focus needs to be on the future. That includes the training churn. We will probably not be able to increase staffing significantly to operate new international routes. In the future Delta will be own or license its brand around the world. The number of flights operated versus the other carriers will not grow. They may shift theaters or routes but growth is outside flight operations.

How might pilots best profit from this reality?


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta...021917066.html

capncrunch

We don't even need to wait for it, they just violate the contract and do it anyway.

Elmer Fudd

Ben Dover is our lead negotiator.

What a POS this "union" is.

In 5 years, we'll have no international flying whatsoever.