V1 for Contract 2016
09-20-2016, 09:14 AM
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Snake
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V1 for Contract 2016
Our representatives are meeting this week in Marietta, Georgia. It’s a regularly scheduled quarterly meeting, not a special meeting called for some specific urgent purpose. If you can believe their tweets, it took them more than six hours just to drag through the chairman’s report, which included the most recent polling data.
This tells me that the dirty dozen are trying to adapt the data to their political machine, rather than conform the strategy to the desires of the membership. It’s past time for the Dirty Dozen to start working for ALL of the Delta pilots, not simply the ones who voted for them.
Each of the Dirty Dozen got elected on a raft of tough talk, orange paint, and willful ignorance. They run when they should fight, and they fight when they should deal. Now they’re just trying to figure out how they can weasel out of this moment because they can’t ALL vote against giving the membership what it clearly wants.
The majority of pilots want a deal.
The Dirty Dozen know that the negotiating committee has punched above its weight in terms of what the membership expects to see in a TA, and they know that the outcome won’t involve mediation. The NMB isn’t going to touch us again until next June; it’s a presidential election year, we are about to hold our own internal elections, and we completely screwed up the last set of mediated talks by sending people to the table who lacked the authority to close a deal. See ya next year, Missus Puchala.
They also know that this is the point of no return for full retro pay. The record of history is pretty clear on this; FedEx, UPS, and Southwest pilots all fell short of making up for the losses due to the simple passage of time, when compounding wasn’t working in their favor, and each of them barely made better than three percent over the entire bargaining cycle. That sucks. We are on the brink of whizzing away a LOT of money, as the average Delta pilot’s retro check would exceed the U.S. median household income. Tell me again how we trick the American public into feeling sorry for us.
Give the negotiators what they need. Sound and sensible direction to do what you elected them to do.
This tells me that the dirty dozen are trying to adapt the data to their political machine, rather than conform the strategy to the desires of the membership. It’s past time for the Dirty Dozen to start working for ALL of the Delta pilots, not simply the ones who voted for them.
Each of the Dirty Dozen got elected on a raft of tough talk, orange paint, and willful ignorance. They run when they should fight, and they fight when they should deal. Now they’re just trying to figure out how they can weasel out of this moment because they can’t ALL vote against giving the membership what it clearly wants.
The majority of pilots want a deal.
The Dirty Dozen know that the negotiating committee has punched above its weight in terms of what the membership expects to see in a TA, and they know that the outcome won’t involve mediation. The NMB isn’t going to touch us again until next June; it’s a presidential election year, we are about to hold our own internal elections, and we completely screwed up the last set of mediated talks by sending people to the table who lacked the authority to close a deal. See ya next year, Missus Puchala.
They also know that this is the point of no return for full retro pay. The record of history is pretty clear on this; FedEx, UPS, and Southwest pilots all fell short of making up for the losses due to the simple passage of time, when compounding wasn’t working in their favor, and each of them barely made better than three percent over the entire bargaining cycle. That sucks. We are on the brink of whizzing away a LOT of money, as the average Delta pilot’s retro check would exceed the U.S. median household income. Tell me again how we trick the American public into feeling sorry for us.
Give the negotiators what they need. Sound and sensible direction to do what you elected them to do.
09-20-2016, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by rube
Our representatives are meeting this week in Marietta, Georgia. It’s a regularly scheduled quarterly meeting, not a special meeting called for some specific urgent purpose. If you can believe their tweets, it took them more than six hours just to drag through the chairman’s report, which included the most recent polling data.
This tells me that the dirty dozen are trying to adapt the data to their political machine, rather than conform the strategy to the desires of the membership. It’s past time for the Dirty Dozen to start working for ALL of the Delta pilots, not simply the ones who voted for them.
Each of the Dirty Dozen got elected on a raft of tough talk, orange paint, and willful ignorance. They run when they should fight, and they fight when they should deal. Now they’re just trying to figure out how they can weasel out of this moment because they can’t ALL vote against giving the membership what it clearly wants.
The majority of pilots want a deal.
The Dirty Dozen know that the negotiating committee has punched above its weight in terms of what the membership expects to see in a TA, and they know that the outcome won’t involve mediation. The NMB isn’t going to touch us again until next June; it’s a presidential election year, we are about to hold our own internal elections, and we completely screwed up the last set of mediated talks by sending people to the table who lacked the authority to close a deal. See ya next year, Missus Puchala.
They also know that this is the point of no return for full retro pay. The record of history is pretty clear on this; FedEx, UPS, and Southwest pilots all fell short of making up for the losses due to the simple passage of time, when compounding wasn’t working in their favor, and each of them barely made better than three percent over the entire bargaining cycle. That sucks. We are on the brink of whizzing away a LOT of money, as the average Delta pilot’s retro check would exceed the U.S. median household income. Tell me again how we trick the American public into feeling sorry for us.
Give the negotiators what they need. Sound and sensible direction to do what you elected them to do.
This tells me that the dirty dozen are trying to adapt the data to their political machine, rather than conform the strategy to the desires of the membership. It’s past time for the Dirty Dozen to start working for ALL of the Delta pilots, not simply the ones who voted for them.
Each of the Dirty Dozen got elected on a raft of tough talk, orange paint, and willful ignorance. They run when they should fight, and they fight when they should deal. Now they’re just trying to figure out how they can weasel out of this moment because they can’t ALL vote against giving the membership what it clearly wants.
The majority of pilots want a deal.
The Dirty Dozen know that the negotiating committee has punched above its weight in terms of what the membership expects to see in a TA, and they know that the outcome won’t involve mediation. The NMB isn’t going to touch us again until next June; it’s a presidential election year, we are about to hold our own internal elections, and we completely screwed up the last set of mediated talks by sending people to the table who lacked the authority to close a deal. See ya next year, Missus Puchala.
They also know that this is the point of no return for full retro pay. The record of history is pretty clear on this; FedEx, UPS, and Southwest pilots all fell short of making up for the losses due to the simple passage of time, when compounding wasn’t working in their favor, and each of them barely made better than three percent over the entire bargaining cycle. That sucks. We are on the brink of whizzing away a LOT of money, as the average Delta pilot’s retro check would exceed the U.S. median household income. Tell me again how we trick the American public into feeling sorry for us.
Give the negotiators what they need. Sound and sensible direction to do what you elected them to do.
09-20-2016, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rube
Our representatives are meeting this week in Marietta, Georgia. It’s a regularly scheduled quarterly meeting, not a special meeting called for some specific urgent purpose. If you can believe their tweets, it took them more than six hours just to drag through the chairman’s report, which included the most recent polling data.
This tells me that the dirty dozen are trying to adapt the data to their political machine, rather than conform the strategy to the desires of the membership. It’s past time for the Dirty Dozen to start working for ALL of the Delta pilots, not simply the ones who voted for them.
Each of the Dirty Dozen got elected on a raft of tough talk, orange paint, and willful ignorance. They run when they should fight, and they fight when they should deal. Now they’re just trying to figure out how they can weasel out of this moment because they can’t ALL vote against giving the membership what it clearly wants.
The majority of pilots want a deal.
The Dirty Dozen know that the negotiating committee has punched above its weight in terms of what the membership expects to see in a TA, and they know that the outcome won’t involve mediation. The NMB isn’t going to touch us again until next June; it’s a presidential election year, we are about to hold our own internal elections, and we completely screwed up the last set of mediated talks by sending people to the table who lacked the authority to close a deal. See ya next year, Missus Puchala.
They also know that this is the point of no return for full retro pay. The record of history is pretty clear on this; FedEx, UPS, and Southwest pilots all fell short of making up for the losses due to the simple passage of time, when compounding wasn’t working in their favor, and each of them barely made better than three percent over the entire bargaining cycle. That sucks. We are on the brink of whizzing away a LOT of money, as the average Delta pilot’s retro check would exceed the U.S. median household income. Tell me again how we trick the American public into feeling sorry for us.
Give the negotiators what they need. Sound and sensible direction to do what you elected them to do.
This tells me that the dirty dozen are trying to adapt the data to their political machine, rather than conform the strategy to the desires of the membership. It’s past time for the Dirty Dozen to start working for ALL of the Delta pilots, not simply the ones who voted for them.
Each of the Dirty Dozen got elected on a raft of tough talk, orange paint, and willful ignorance. They run when they should fight, and they fight when they should deal. Now they’re just trying to figure out how they can weasel out of this moment because they can’t ALL vote against giving the membership what it clearly wants.
The majority of pilots want a deal.
The Dirty Dozen know that the negotiating committee has punched above its weight in terms of what the membership expects to see in a TA, and they know that the outcome won’t involve mediation. The NMB isn’t going to touch us again until next June; it’s a presidential election year, we are about to hold our own internal elections, and we completely screwed up the last set of mediated talks by sending people to the table who lacked the authority to close a deal. See ya next year, Missus Puchala.
They also know that this is the point of no return for full retro pay. The record of history is pretty clear on this; FedEx, UPS, and Southwest pilots all fell short of making up for the losses due to the simple passage of time, when compounding wasn’t working in their favor, and each of them barely made better than three percent over the entire bargaining cycle. That sucks. We are on the brink of whizzing away a LOT of money, as the average Delta pilot’s retro check would exceed the U.S. median household income. Tell me again how we trick the American public into feeling sorry for us.
Give the negotiators what they need. Sound and sensible direction to do what you elected them to do.
09-20-2016, 11:19 AM
#9
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
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Originally Posted by gloopy
If its a choice between the "dirty dozen" and the Surrender Seven, I'll pick
any day and twice on Profit Sharing day.
any day and twice on Profit Sharing day.Last edited by Scoop; 09-20-2016 at 05:05 PM. Reason: TOU
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