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Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 2208521)
ALPA made a huge mistake when they shut down the DALPA forum.
They lost control of the information flow and now they will never get it back. You could say the father of this whole revolution in our union is Buzz Hazzard. If that's not irony I don't know what is. |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 2208521)
ALPA made a huge mistake when they shut down the DALPA forum.
They lost control of the information flow and now they will never get it back. You could say the father of this whole revolution in our union is Buzz Hazzard. If that's not irony I don't know what is. I'm going with Al Gore - after-all if he didn't invent the Internet we wouldn't have APC, Chit Chat and Facebook. Scoop :D |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 2208529)
LOLWUT?
62% yes to 65% no is a LOT more than 3%, not sure what you're alluding to. The Surrender Seven are clearly advocating for a vote of POSTA2.0 which is a repackaging of POSTA1.0 with a few "deck chairs rearranged". The big variable to them is they think the membership is so desperate for any TA they will cave and MEMRAT whatever's brought to them. I'm fine with having a vote again on a poison pill laced agreement. One last time, and then we get serious. Will the 7 agree to that though, or will they demand another vote on a substandard TA until voter fatigue/apathy nets them something, anything? They already bought these big RJ's, the stock had been hammered, holidays approach and they know they will have a hot and I'll tempered pilot group by Summer '17... That won't go well and they know it. If they roll into Summer 17 still playing games hedge funds are going to want their flesh and a few heads. 50-seaters go unstaffed... Paid for big RJ's hanging out in AZ... New hires going to other options.... Sick leave? Strategy... Wind the clock and wait. It IS what they fear most. THEY approached us to open early, not out of kindness. |
Originally Posted by LandGreen2
(Post 2208449)
IMO Social Media is a huge factor. Why do you think so many of the black polo shirts are on here posting everyday, every thread, and trying so hard to control the message. C2012 vote might have been a lot closer if the members were fluent in social media. As the demographics of the seniority list change, the younger crowd will certainly do most of their information exchanges thru social media and very little thru MEC propaganda.
Propaganda is an interesting choice of word. Regarding the interwebs: I bet you trust Wikipedia to be 100% accurate as well? I agree that social media is a big big factor, but there are a TON of half truths and influence being brought to bear that is just plain bad. |
Originally Posted by 300SMK
(Post 2208614)
Wind the clock and wait. It IS what they fear most. THEY approached us to open early, not out of kindness.
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
(Post 2208652)
First of all, we are past the amendable date. Nothing at this point is 'early'. Second, we need to revisit that overused phrase 'chess vs checkers'. You think they "fear" us winding the clock? They are already on version 237 of plan R.
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
(Post 2208652)
First of all, we are past the amendable date. Nothing at this point is 'early'. Second, we need to revisit that overused phrase 'chess vs checkers'. You think they "fear" us winding the clock? They are already on version 237 of plan R.
You are correct that nothing at this point is early, however his point was that the company approached us early to get a deal done. We are now approaching 10 months past our amendable date and we haven't had real section 6 negotiations since C2K and people are losing their minds. We went 18 months past during C2K right. |
Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
(Post 2208715)
James,
You are correct that nothing at this point is early, however his point was that the company approached us early to get a deal done. We are now approaching 10 months past our amendable date and we haven't had real section 6 negotiations since C2K and people are losing their minds. We went 18 months past during C2K right. |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 2208591)
I'm going with Al Gore - after-all if he didn't invent the Internet we wouldn't have APC, Chit Chat and Facebook.
Scoop :D |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 2208591)
I'm going with Al Gore - after-all if he didn't invent the Internet we wouldn't have APC, Chit Chat and Facebook.
Scoop :D Against forum TOU!! Where's a Mod when you need them?!?! :D |
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