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Bartender 11-14-2016 07:16 PM

Delta hiring practice catching up to them.
 
There is a growing concern that Delta's hiring practice is becoming a safety threat. Hiring very low time pilots that can now be Captain in less than a year. Two low time pilots in a Maddog in LGA in the winter?

Keep bypassing those high time regional pilots that you think are "untrainable" yet currently fly for you. It's going to bite you.

80ktsClamp 11-14-2016 07:30 PM

Yikes... talk about alarmist and entitled.

The "low time" pilot that got the 4 month award spent 8 years at ASA. That's hardly low time. He's currently on the MD-88.

They are addressing the threats of quick upgrades and looking at how to mitigate the threat further. Lowering the standards of who they interview is not one of them.

Bartender 11-14-2016 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2243358)
Yikes... talk about alarmist and entitled.

The "low time" pilot that got the 4 month award spent 8 years at ASA. That's hardly low time. He's currently on the MD-88.

They are addressing the threats of quick upgrades and looking at how to mitigate the threat further. Lowering the standards of who they interview is not one of them.

IOE times are increasing significantly. Some of the "affirmative action hiring" candidates are very low time. Lowering the standards? You are bypassing very high time DCI pilots because of some very strange theories on "standards". Experience is not valued at Delta.

newKnow 11-14-2016 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by Bartender (Post 2243363)
IOE times are increasing significantly. Some of the "affirmative action hiring" candidates are very low time. Lowering the standards? You are bypassing very high time DCI pilots because of some very strange theories on "standards". Experience is not valued at Delta.

You fly for Delta, Bartender?

80ktsClamp 11-14-2016 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Bartender (Post 2243363)
IOE times are increasing significantly. Some of the "affirmative action hiring" candidates are very low time. Lowering the standards? You are bypassing very high time DCI pilots because of some very strange theories on "standards". Experience is not valued at Delta.

They are preemptively pushing OE to 75 hours for someone making captain under a year. It is not due to a lack of performance... it is them being proactive and making sure they do it right. Anyone making captain in under a year gets that amount of OE... be it a 2500 hour fighter jock or a 20,000 hour guy coming from another airline.

Bartender 11-14-2016 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2243369)
They are preemptively pushing OE to 75 hours for someone making captain under a year. It is not due to a lack of performance... it is them being proactive and making sure they do it right. Anyone making captain in under a year gets that amount of OE... be it a 2500 hour fighter jock or a 20,000 hour guy coming from another airline.

That is the politically correct answer. You have plenty of pilots flying for your regionals who have perfect records and are being bypassed while you play social engineering and ignore the value of experience. It is catching up with you. Most regional candidates don't need 75 hours of IOE. Something is up and nobody wants to admit it.

WhiskeyDelta 11-14-2016 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 2243368)
You fly for Delta, Bartender?

Based on his post history, he's at ASA/Expressjet. That makes him eminently qualified to speak about Delta IOE times. Don't you think?

WhiskeyDelta 11-14-2016 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by Bartender (Post 2243372)
That is the politically correct answer. You have plenty of pilots flying for your regionals who have perfect records and are being bypassed while you play social engineering and ignore the value of experience. It is catching up with you. Most regional candidates don't need 75 hours of IOE. Something is up and nobody wants to admit it.

That's hilarious. I interviewed in a group of 16. Based on this post you will be shocked to hear the two people who weren't hired were a white female fighter pilot and a black female military heavy pilot.

The reason the interview is points based is to reduce bias not increase it.

newKnow 11-14-2016 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 2243374)
Based on his post history, he's at ASA/Expressjet. That makes him eminently qualified to speak about Delta IOE times. Don't you think?

Absolutely. :D

80ktsClamp 11-14-2016 07:58 PM

Someone is drunk and angry tonight, methinks. This could get quite entertaining before I have to shut it down! :D


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