ALPA Dues
 

Should DALPA push for lower dues.

If you vote yes by what percentage?

I say a 30% reduction in dues is appropriate.

My thought was by a least as much as was adde3d by the last round of agreements. The books were balanced prior to the increased revenue so the increased funds would not be necessary. Not sure what percent that would be but 18% should be doable at a minimum.

Minimum 30.19%

It needs to be brought down incrementally to between 1.25-1.5%. If a large carrier like AA joins ALPA, closer to 1.25% would suffice.

What's this 1.25% stuff?

Let's reduce it by an amount that requires ALPA to "reasonably" budget their money.

I'd say reduce it to 1%. If there's a need for more during a time of increased ALPA services, we can initiate an assessment to cover the increased costs.

What do "independent" unions like APA, IPA and SWAPA pay for dues as a percentage of pay?

I think 1% sounds good.

Really?

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007,

What do you mean by, "really?"

You sound like a smart, fiscally responsible gentleman? Why not hold ALPA-National to the sane standard. Fiscal responsibility is a long lost art of bloated bureaucracy. I think it's time we tighten the reigns.

I'm just curious about those who voted no to a dues increase- anyone care to chime in with reasoning?

He likes to do this kind of stuff.
Kind of his way of "farting in a phonebooth."

Back on topic..We should not be paying more than 1.33%.

In response to 80's query, I voted no to a dues DECREASE. I have used ALPA resources throughout my career, and I recommend ALL of us support the ALPA-PAC. On the other hand, live like an ignorant SOB.

This is a BS poll. Nobody is asking about a dues increase, by the way. As far as trying to lower our dues, let me ask this: Should DALPA try to get lower income taxes? Should DALPA try to get lower property taxes? Should DALPA try to get lower sales taxes? Should DALPA try to get lower capital gains' taxes? ..........how do you think pilots will respond?

That was a typo on my part- I'm curious who voted no to a dues DECREASE. Can someone lay out why they said no?

How about this poll as a comparison:

Should we make more money and have more time off?

1. Yes
2. No

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

No, I think it is a really good idea to pay more money. :rolleyes: What is magical about 1.33%? How did you arrive at that number?

Think about this for a minute. This is another DPA type question to try and show their "superiority".

And 'fart in a phonebooth' is a trademarked phrase that can only be applied to Jerry, so cease and desist. :D


Seriously, if ya'll think this poll has any real value, have at it, but the result is predictable.

IPA dues are 1.5%.

During the furlough they were increased to 2.25% to pay COBRA for furloughees, and after the furlough ended it was decided to maintain dues at that rate essentially as a negotiations assessment until the TA was ratified and became effective.

Your comparison for making the point it's a needless (obvious?) falls flat when there are people already voting AGAINST a dues reduction.

Your "more money & more time off" poll implies everyone wants more money AND more time off. One would also think its obvious that EVERYONE agrees to a dues reduction.

This survey that Scoop started disagrees with that premise. Maybe I'm missing your point?

Thanks...guess SWAPA is at 1%. Not sure about APA.

If ALPA needs the extra funds then they should have to explain why. At least refund them to the MECs and let them decide what's best for their members. Pumping more money into the system accomplishes what?

FWIW, C44 introduced this resolution two years ago ... United blocked, if I'm not mistaken.

The smaller airlines are concerned about funding their MEC's and do not want to have to ask for MCF money.

Larger airlines are well funded and sometimes process dues refunds to their pilots (as we have).

The end state goal should not just be a reasonable dues rate, but to see American return to the pilots' union and Southwest join.

I like the way you are thinking one step ahead. IF we could get all of us together in one union we would have a much stronger collective bargaining agent. Maybe Delta, United and AA could join SWAPA. While we are at it, let's get UPS and FedEx in the mix.