Ranting is good for the soul!:D

You can't fight stupid. I give. Carry on.

You are correct that we should be paid for significant changes like this. It needs to be codified in the contract, and changing the CBA won't fix that.

So , being a Easy bid guy - I decided its time to move up to delta's bidding system , if you go to deltas web site and download the latest bidding software - its a navtech pbs system that locks up all the time - I smarted up and watched a video .... it looked nothing like navtech . its a navblue web based set up.
Just to be sure I read the bulletins and they all describe navblue , but using the latest links in the bulletins I get navtech downloads .?. I am pretty sure my effort shud be to learn the navblue system .
So - I am assuming (I know) that the web based navblue is the one that will be able to be used on the surface 3 and offline for constructing a bid in the future ?.
anyone else with this mensa based conumdrum ?

Did you send these issues to the PBS committee? They're open to constructive criticism and are pretty fast to reply with your concerns.

Is it not stupid to buy a product to help with something you don't need help doing? Fighting change just because it's a change is stupid.

Navblue is what you want. You can change the link on the PBS button on the "my tools" page of Deltanet. This is the link you want...

https://deltapilotbids.delta.com/webapp/

I think that's what you're asking.

Navblue is what you want. You can changed the link on the PBS button on the "my tools" page of Deltanet. This is the link you want...

https://deltapilotbids.delta.com/webapp/

I think that's what you're asking.[/QUOTE]

It is and thanks - I will pass on the loco link info
Gander

Glad to see it's not just me.....
I always used the previous PHP based version of PBS , typically at home and on a high speed connection and sometimes on a layover with my Macbook.
I wrote the PBS person about a couple things.
I'm done. They just want to ram a square peg in round hole.
To me it appears they don't want to hear it....

I get the concept about needing to learn the new interface etc etc bla bla, but I'm no turnip off the cart and come with a decade of experience maintaining an e-commerce site - you know the type where if grandpa can't understand the checkout screens you LOSE SALES AND MONEY....
Previously beta tested actually alpha and beta a new very successful order management business application....

With that said the new PBS is a very nice beta imo.

Please let me know if you hear of any formal avenue of bug reports or functionality suggestions beyond just emailing some ALPA PBS person.
Not going to waste my time otherwise - done stick a fork in me.

You need to write your Reps and let them know.

Nu

I hate the new PBS. It kind of reminds me of the IVR system we have now. Some desk dweller said hey this would be cool but it's not functional.

The interface should be intuitive where a novice should be able to log on and put in a simple bid........IMO........this is not.

Anything that needs notepad after notepad, webinar after webinar, and YouTube video after YouTube video to explain how to use it is going to cause a lot of problems.....

Denny