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jdebrey 12-09-2017 11:12 AM

QOL Living in NYC
 
Everyone recommends living in base, but how is the QOL out by LGA or JFK?

Let me know your thoughts

Thanks.

Five93H 12-09-2017 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by jdebrey (Post 2480599)
Everyone recommends living in base, but how is the QOL out by LGA or JFK?

Let me know your thoughts

Thanks.

Depends... I moved to NYC this year and am senior in seat. QOL is great, 18 off, easily credit 100+ a month when I choose. If you like city life it's fantastic. I've met a few other 9E guys living in the city and we all enjoy it. I'm equally able to access JFK and LGA and pick up from both. Not having a car tremendously offset the increased rent I pay, while I manage to live comfortably on the current pay scales.

Space Ranger 12-09-2017 11:31 AM

NY is a dump

Arliss 12-09-2017 12:20 PM

I live in New Jersey. The NYC area can be a big and scary place for people who didn't grow up here. But it's also amazing. There's a gritiness to New York that underlies it's culture and class, and that's what makes it great. Most culturally diverse place you will ever see and the best part is probably the food. Any kind of food from anywhere in the world, you can find it any time of day here and it'll be good. The biggest problem in NY is that it's obscenely expensive. The "cool" place to be for the last 10 years or so has been Brooklyn, and there are lots of nice neighborhoods.

For me, the issues are driving and traffic. I live in NJ (grew up here, love it), and where I am it's about a 60 minute/50 mile drive to JFK; longer to LGA. It's expensive, about $30 round trip just in tolls (!!). Also, the traffic on the Staten Island Expressway, Belt Parkway (to JFK), and Brooklyn-Queens Expressway (to LGA) can make you want to eat a bullet. Early in the morning though, the roads are empty and it's easy. It also doesn't help that I drive a stick.

So yea, the NY/NJ/CT area can be a great place. If it wasn't so desirable then there wouldn't be such a problem with housing cost, so that shows that people want to live here.

teddy3412 12-09-2017 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Arliss (Post 2480636)
I live in New Jersey. The NYC area can be a big and scary place for people who didn't grow up here. But it's also amazing. There's a gritiness to New York that underlies it's culture and class, and that's what makes it great. Most culturally diverse place you will ever see and the best part is probably the food. Any kind of food from anywhere in the world, you can find it any time of day here and it'll be good. The biggest problem in NY is that it's obscenely expensive. The "cool" place to be for the last 10 years or so has been Brooklyn, and there are lots of nice neighborhoods.

For me, the issues are driving and traffic. I live in NJ (grew up here, love it), and where I am it's about a 60 minute/50 mile drive to JFK; longer to LGA. It's expensive, about $30 round trip just in tolls (!!). Also, the traffic on the Staten Island Expressway, Belt Parkway (to JFK), and Brooklyn-Queens Expressway (to LGA) can make you want to eat a bullet. Early in the morning though, the roads are empty and it's easy. It also doesn't help that I drive a stick.

So yea, the NY/NJ/CT area can be a great place. If it wasn't so desirable then there wouldn't be such a problem with housing cost, so that shows that people want to live here.

$30 round trip? Damn... That's crazy

Reserve King 12-09-2017 01:20 PM

If you don’t live in Queens or on Long Island, you’re crossing a bridge to get to the airports. Prices vary but they’re not pennies.


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Five93H 12-09-2017 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Reserve King (Post 2480664)
If you don’t live in Queens or on Long Island, you’re crossing a bridge to get to the airports. Prices vary but they’re not pennies.


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Brooklyn exists and has fantastic neighborhoods... I don't pay any more than my MTA card to get to work.

Reserve King 12-09-2017 02:00 PM

Brooklyn is basically Queens and Long Island.


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prex8390 12-09-2017 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Space Ranger (Post 2480609)
NY is a dump

I second this. You couldn’t pay me to live there.

ceelo 12-09-2017 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2480704)
I second this. You couldn’t pay me to live there.

then don't live here

Aurora8 12-09-2017 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2480704)
I second this. You couldn’t pay me to live there.

I went to college in NYC and had a great time, but couldn't wait to get back to Montana when I finished! For me, it's a fantastic city to visit, but it's not a place to stay long term, especially if you have children.

LNL76 12-09-2017 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by ceelo (Post 2480705)
then don't live here

lol. I love when they call NY and NJ a dump. All most of them see and experience is around the airports. There are areas of both states that most of us can't even dream to afford.

Space Ranger 12-09-2017 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 2480733)
lol. I love when they call NY and NJ a dump. All most of them see and experience is around the airports. There are areas of both states that most of us can't even dream to afford.

Born and raised here..place is a dump. And an expensive dump at that. If you enjoy ****ing your money away, come on down to good ole NYC and check it out. Some people get blinded by the buildings and bright lights from afar. One subway ride to work in the morning with a homeless crackhead next to you ****ing down his leg will gut check you real quick. If that doesn't, then the state AND city taxes coming out of your paycheck while Uncle Sam bends you over certainly will. General rules of society don't apply here, similar to how they don't in an airport. If thats a place where you want to exist, then welcome.

SomeAv8tor 12-09-2017 08:58 PM

You can leave the city and avoid tolls. Takes me an extra 30min getting home but I’ll save my money. You just take any of the bridges going into Manhattan to the holland tunnel. That’s if you make it out of the lga employee lot without being run over by an Uber driver.

Air Stang 7 12-09-2017 09:17 PM

Anyone ever fall in a septic tank? How's the QOL? Thinking about moving in one.

Space Ranger 12-10-2017 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by Air Stang 7 (Post 2480853)
Anyone ever fall in a septic tank? How's the QOL? Thinking about moving in one.

Maybe a year or two ago a study was published that among thousands of other parasitic strands and bacteria, found trace amounts of the BUBONIC PLAGUE still living in parts of the subway system.

Casualinterest 12-10-2017 10:59 AM

Just tune into the bills colts game right now haha.

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prex8390 12-10-2017 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Space Ranger (Post 2480808)
Born and raised here..place is a dump. And an expensive dump at that. If you enjoy ****ing your money away, come on down to good ole NYC and check it out. Some people get blinded by the buildings and bright lights from afar. One subway ride to work in the morning with a homeless crackhead next to you ****ing down his leg will gut check you real quick. If that doesn't, then the state AND city taxes coming out of your paycheck while Uncle Sam bends you over certainly will. General rules of society don't apply here, similar to how they don't in an airport. If thats a place where you want to exist, then welcome.


I’m starting to think you’re John Rocker irl lol

ceelo 12-10-2017 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 2480733)
lol. I love when they call NY and NJ a dump. All most of them see and experience is around the airports. There are areas of both states that most of us can't even dream to afford.

haha exactly

Space Ranger 12-10-2017 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2481050)
I’m starting to think you’re John Rocker irl lol

Don’t get me wrong, there are absolutely gorgeous parts of upstate New York. Can’t say much about the state of NJ as I haven’t been there. Most of the state of New York is beautiful, I’m specifically referring to NYC...which is a cesspool

teddy3412 12-10-2017 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Space Ranger (Post 2481084)
Don’t get me wrong, there are absolutely gorgeous parts of upstate New York. Can’t say much about the state of NJ as I haven’t been there. Most of the state of New York is beautiful, I’m specifically referring to NYC...which is a cesspool

I'd rather live in Mordor

jules11 12-11-2017 07:18 AM

An APC forum isn’t the place to ask about people’s opinions of a certain city... you’re better off just googling it or perhaps actually speaking to people who actually live there.

Avroman 12-11-2017 05:07 PM

In my unofficial polling of New Yorkers, most love it there because they've never really been anywhere else, they don't know any better that there is a vast nation full of cheaper places, or at least places just as expensive with much better weather.

HighFlight 12-11-2017 11:19 PM

This is true of most Americans. So many never leave their town/county/state. Never mind the country. Very... limited experiences, If you will.


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2481831)
In my unofficial polling of New Yorkers, most love it there because they've never really been anywhere else, they don't know any better that there is a vast nation full of cheaper places, or at least places just as expensive with much better weather.


Arliss 12-12-2017 08:46 AM

What's interesting is that I've been all over the country (and Canada and Mexico) as a pilot and I keep coming back to Jersey. The only other places I could see living are Chicago (possibly the most underrated big city in the US) or some places in the mountain west. Oh, and Paris if I didn't suck at French.

Reserve King 12-12-2017 08:59 AM

Paris is a tough commute.

jules11 12-12-2017 09:54 AM

I've been all over the country as well; Canada and Mexico too, as well as 6/7 continents.

Places I could live in?

Buenos Aires, Barcelona, and NYC.

There's a reason its the most heavily populated city in the US by far and the center of the most heavily populated region of the country. 8.6 million people can't be wrong...

prex8390 12-12-2017 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2481831)
In my unofficial polling of New Yorkers, most love it there because they've never really been anywhere else, they don't know any better that there is a vast nation full of cheaper places, or at least places just as expensive with much better weather.


This is the aboslute truth, i was born and raised in the midwest, went to school in the upper midwest and now live on the east coast, if anyone has ever flown with me, yall know how eager i am to leave this hell hole that is the eastern seaboard. but thats my bias. i thought traffic was bad, everyday items were expensive there and then moved out here now im grateful to go home.

Avroman 12-12-2017 10:41 AM

The great thing about this country is that if you want to live on 100 acres with no other human in sight you can, or you can live in a refrigerator box on top of millions of other people.


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