DGI Dead in the water?
#191
I agree...this thread got hijacked by a few. Regarding the DGI, haven't heard much from the 7th floor. Either it's a moot point or the secret will be announced within a few weeks.
#192
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There is nothing to talk about with the DGI, everyone should have their app in already if you want to move to Delta. They'll have to interview outside of the DGI since the EtD's aren't moving. It will hurt recruiting if they don't keep the movement up.
#193
I don't know how you got that from my post, but a 4 year degree program is a full time student to a Bachelor's degree. Delta, other than for an internship(must be a full time student), always lists the degree requirement as an Associate's, Bachelor's, or Masters. It's well know that Delta considers length of time to complete a Bachelor's in the pilot position. Just look at Delta's other job listings where a degree is required, the never say 2 year, 4 year, 6 year program.
It simply makes the job of filling classes easier. If the day ever comes that DL is not getting enough apps, the degree will be the first fruit to fall off the tree. Then wind checks, then volunteerism.
#194
Here is my take on the degree thingy. You got a huge stack of apps.You use the degree requirement as a way to make the stack smaller and your job easier, or you simply don't allow none-degree apps to even get in the pile. That's about the only value of the degree. Delta has demonstraed they really don't care about the degree by hiring pilots without a degree.
It simply makes the job of filling classes easier. If the day ever comes that DL is not getting enough apps, the degree will be the first fruit to fall off the tree. Then wind checks, then volunteerism.
It simply makes the job of filling classes easier. If the day ever comes that DL is not getting enough apps, the degree will be the first fruit to fall off the tree. Then wind checks, then volunteerism.
#195
Here is my take on the degree thingy. You got a huge stack of apps.You use the degree requirement as a way to make the stack smaller and your job easier, or you simply don't allow none-degree apps to even get in the pile. That's about the only value of the degree. Delta has demonstraed they really don't care about the degree by hiring pilots without a degree.
It simply makes the job of filling classes easier. If the day ever comes that DL is not getting enough apps, the degree will be the first fruit to fall off the tree. Then wind checks, then volunteerism.
It simply makes the job of filling classes easier. If the day ever comes that DL is not getting enough apps, the degree will be the first fruit to fall off the tree. Then wind checks, then volunteerism.
#196
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I agree with you to a point but as you eluded to in your post, I feel that that logic will not work for much longer. The stack of apps that delta has is not nearly as deep as they think it is and here is why. I myself have apps out at 4 different companies and I WILL go to the first one that offers me a position, effectively removing my app from the other 3 stacks. Now extrapolate that out over every guy trying to move on. I would opine that the vast majority of us have at least 2 apps out if not many more. Divide that stack by 3 or maybe 4 and that is the true figure that all of the airlines have to pick from. Now I do understand that the pool is dynamic with people entering and leaving it everyday but he point still stands, the true stack is not nearly as deep as everyone thinks it is. With the massive amounts of retirements still yet to come it is a discriminator that will not be sustainable. That being said, we all know that all the major airlines are pretty arrogant when it comes to their hiring and they may very well believe that that stack they have over at HR is full of folks who only want to work at that particular airline but they do so at their own peril.
#197
I agree with you to a point but as you eluded to in your post, I feel that that logic will not work for much longer. The stack of apps that delta has is not nearly as deep as they think it is and here is why. I myself have apps out at 4 different companies and I WILL go to the first one that offers me a position, effectively removing my app from the other 3 stacks. Now extrapolate that out over every guy trying to move on. I would opine that the vast majority of us have at least 2 apps out if not many more. Divide that stack by 3 or maybe 4 and that is the true figure that all of the airlines have to pick from. Now I do understand that the pool is dynamic with people entering and leaving it everyday but he point still stands, the true stack is not nearly as deep as everyone thinks it is. With the massive amounts of retirements still yet to come it is a discriminator that will not be sustainable. That being said, we all know that all the major airlines are pretty arrogant when it comes to their hiring and they may very well believe that that stack they have over at HR is full of folks who only want to work at that particular airline but they do so at their own peril.
#198
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#200
I believe the original words quoted were they had 3000 apps that were competitive (or some similar word). I wonder how many FO and newly minted CA with the WOs are considered competitive by AA HR? With the amount of relatively new hires, my guess is not many.
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