DGI Dead in the water?
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When the interview comes are you going to be able to drop the bitter attitude and vitriol?
You've already narrowed your identity down to one of 4 people, if you really want to go to Delta this isn't a path you want to be taking IMO.
I would happily put money down that it will happen. My understanding is the last SSP pilots haven't even left yet. Since the DGI is not allowed to begin until after the SSP is finished, I don't see the cause for all this.
Sure, it'd be nice to have the plan well in advance, but that doesn't mean that it isn't going to happen.
You've already narrowed your identity down to one of 4 people, if you really want to go to Delta this isn't a path you want to be taking IMO.
I would happily put money down that it will happen. My understanding is the last SSP pilots haven't even left yet. Since the DGI is not allowed to begin until after the SSP is finished, I don't see the cause for all this.
Sure, it'd be nice to have the plan well in advance, but that doesn't mean that it isn't going to happen.
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When the interview comes are you going to be able to drop the bitter attitude and vitriol?
You've already narrowed your identity down to one of 4 people, if you really want to go to Delta this isn't a path you want to be taking IMO.
I would happily put money down that it will happen. My understanding is the last SSP pilots haven't even left yet. Since the DGI is not allowed to begin until after the SSP is finished, I don't see the cause for all this.
Sure, it'd be nice to have the plan well in advance, but that doesn't mean that it isn't going to happen.
You've already narrowed your identity down to one of 4 people, if you really want to go to Delta this isn't a path you want to be taking IMO.
I would happily put money down that it will happen. My understanding is the last SSP pilots haven't even left yet. Since the DGI is not allowed to begin until after the SSP is finished, I don't see the cause for all this.
Sure, it'd be nice to have the plan well in advance, but that doesn't mean that it isn't going to happen.
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The pretending the DGI is anything meaningful, is embarasing and I'm sick of it.
DAL is internally touting the DGI and they offered everyone who was at the company before an interview with the SSP. I fully believe that the interviews are going to happen. Take advantage of the time between when you think it should happen and it actually does to prepare further than you have already.
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This is the type of stuff that I think it setting yourself up.
DAL is internally touting the DGI and they offered everyone who was at the company before an interview with the SSP. I fully believe that the interviews are going to happen. Take advantage of the time between when you think it should happen and it actually does to prepare further than you have already.
DAL is internally touting the DGI and they offered everyone who was at the company before an interview with the SSP. I fully believe that the interviews are going to happen. Take advantage of the time between when you think it should happen and it actually does to prepare further than you have already.
I was simply stating the DGI as is stands qualifies some of our pilots to go at this moment but no interview is occurring.
What evidence do you submit that the DGI will happen, and that
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So just to be clear: what you want to address is not the facts of the DGI, simply you wish to say is if I don't start clapping, tinkerbell won't live. Sidenote that if i dont change the DGI won't be a success for me. Also you feel comfortable speaking for Delta and Delta HR. Furthermore that I haven't studied, or better yet that I wouldnt study (even if i had).
I was simply stating the DGI as is stands qualifies some of our pilots to go at this moment but no interview is occurring.
What evidence do you submit that the DGI will happen, and that
I was simply stating the DGI as is stands qualifies some of our pilots to go at this moment but no interview is occurring.
What evidence do you submit that the DGI will happen, and that
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So just to be clear: what you want to address is not the facts of the DGI, simply you wish to say is if I don't start clapping, tinkerbell won't live. Sidenote that if i dont change the DGI won't be a success for me. Also you feel comfortable speaking for Delta and Delta HR. Furthermore that I haven't studied, or better yet that I wouldnt study (even if i had).
I was simply stating the DGI as is stands qualifies some of our pilots to go at this moment but no interview is occurring.
What evidence do you submit that the DGI will happen, and that
I was simply stating the DGI as is stands qualifies some of our pilots to go at this moment but no interview is occurring.
What evidence do you submit that the DGI will happen, and that
The negativity part is because if you spend enough time being negative, it tends to show in interviews. You didn't just say that there are qualified pilots and no interviews happened, you said that it flat out won't. I didn't presume that you didn't prepare at all, just said to do it more. The interview is incredibly difficult. I do not speak for Delta HR or mgmt, so please do not put words in my mouth. I simply advise that being too negative on here about the program that you hope to use to get to DAL certainly cannot be helpful to your goals.
Delta saying they are going to do it and even advocating it internally at mainline is enough for me to be confident it will happen.
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I'm just saying that negativity isn't going to get you anywhere. No one has shown anything to indicate that the DGI is not going to happen, just complaints that it is slow to start. If the qualified people are RTW, I don't recall ever hearing anything that the DGI would start just for them, only that previous time would count for being qualified.
The negativity part is because if you spend enough time being negative, it tends to show in interviews. You didn't just say that there are qualified pilots and no interviews happened, you said that it flat out won't. I didn't presume that you didn't prepare at all, just said to do it more. The interview is incredibly difficult. I do not speak for Delta HR or mgmt, so please do not put words in my mouth. I simply advise that being too negative on here about the program that you hope to use to get to DAL certainly cannot be helpful to your goals.
Delta saying they are going to do it and even advocating it internally at mainline is enough for me to be confident it will happen.
The negativity part is because if you spend enough time being negative, it tends to show in interviews. You didn't just say that there are qualified pilots and no interviews happened, you said that it flat out won't. I didn't presume that you didn't prepare at all, just said to do it more. The interview is incredibly difficult. I do not speak for Delta HR or mgmt, so please do not put words in my mouth. I simply advise that being too negative on here about the program that you hope to use to get to DAL certainly cannot be helpful to your goals.
Delta saying they are going to do it and even advocating it internally at mainline is enough for me to be confident it will happen.
Also I'd refer you to my and your previous posts as to what you're "just" saying, and that will clarify the rest of the above.
The DGI, as it stands, will have to change (again). But none of that was what i was referring to. A post was made blaming the union, for the DGI not going. My point was to stop blaming the union. As ive said for a while, you chose to come here with a dgi that had no contractual binding.
On one of my post i was corrected about no one being eligible, which is factually incorrect, and i replied. You came in shortly after needing to correct my attitude.
My point is and remains don't blame the union or even other pilots for this DGI not being what it was sold as. There are far too many opportunities, and if you aren't happy here leave. I have no problem showing up here for work, doing my job, and getting that check (my favorite part).
Now if I'm not positive enough for you, in my viewpoint that's a "you" problem not a "me" problem.
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For clarity, this is a 9E guy currently AT Delta, maybe his opinion is actually pretty worthwhile for what's required to get to Delta.
Lastly, we all know the DGI can't start until the SSP's are gone. (There's some question whether the ETD pilots also hold it up) Last I heard the last SSP's expected to be gone in June. Once the last SSP's are gone there will be something to complain about, until then, it's all speculation. They don't HAVE to tell us a bunch before then; July 1 they could say "send us an email and submit your app to Delta" it's not necessarily a huge process.
But if you want to continue to be all riled up, be my guest.
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