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Flogger 03-16-2018 06:27 AM

DGI Dead in the water?
 
I have been hearing quite a bit of grumbles that the DGI program is not functioning. The SSP is stalled out with the last few folks not going anywhere and not a single DGI interview is scheduled. With the company able to hire more than they need, there seems to be no incentive to get DGI or any sort of flow going.

Is there something I'm missing?

Two Kings 03-16-2018 06:48 AM

Any information on the upcoming DGI is pure speculation right now as the company has been very vague in any details since the program was announced.

All we know right now is that it appears the last successful SSP pilots are leaving for Delta in May. Then it should be the ETD pilots, however I believe there are some who haven’t even upgraded yet. So DGI candidates could be waiting quite a long time for the chance to interview at Delta. With the busy summer flying season coming up and Endeavor short on Captains what motivation does Endeavor or Delta have to hire Endeavor captains and send them away to Delta?

They would probably much rather hire FOs off the street and keep Endeavor Captains at Endeavor for as long as possible.

HighFlight 03-16-2018 07:08 AM

Nowhere can I find anything that says the DGI folks have to wait for the ETD guys to upgrade, and conversations with people in key positions say they doubt that will happen. It doesn’t make sense to hold back hundreds of DGIs for one or two ETDs who are happy in the right seat (or whatever their reason may be to stay there).

Still, little to no information exists other than what is posted in the company website. No memo to sign and turn in yet, though it is required evidently, no start date, no method of implementation. The first eligible candidates (that I am aware of, there may be someone sooner) will hit the 2-year mark as CA around September. There is still time to iron out the details, but the company really needs to be working this out sooner rather than later.

flydiamond 03-16-2018 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2551950)
Nowhere can I find anything that says the DGI folks have to wait for the ETD guys to upgrade, and conversations with people in key positions say they doubt that will happen. It doesn’t make sense to hold back hundreds of DGIs for one or two ETDs who are happy in the right seat (or whatever their reason may be to stay there).

Still, little to no information exists other than what is posted in the company website. No memo to sign and turn in yet, though it is required evidently, no start date, no method of implementation. The first eligible candidates (that I am aware of, there may be someone sooner) will hit the 2-year mark as CA around September. There is still time to iron out the details, but the company really needs to be working this out sooner rather than later.

RE himself has said the DGI will begin this year. Any shenanigans will have a major impact on recruitment and morale which I know the company wouldn’t want.

jules11 03-16-2018 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by flydiamond (Post 2551958)
RE himself has said the DGI will begin this year. Any shenanigans will have a major impact on recruitment and morale which I know the company wouldn’t want.

Damn straight

prex8390 03-16-2018 08:21 AM

TW said himself DGI isn’t going anywhere, if anything ,they want to improve upon it and make sure it’s not another SSP. It’s just bureaucracy slowing it up a little right now while they figure out the ETD folks.

Swagship 03-16-2018 08:23 AM

won't matter when Delta send DGS wingwalkers to fly right seat here and flow over. They will have their own pipeline here and ignore the rest of us.

Unpilot 03-16-2018 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Swagship (Post 2552002)
won't matter when Delta send DGS wingwalkers to fly right seat here and flow over. They will have their own pipeline here and ignore the rest of us.

Careful with negativity ..it will rot you from the inside

Flogger 03-16-2018 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2551998)
TW said himself DGI isn’t going anywhere, if anything ,they want to improve upon it and make sure it’s not another SSP. It’s just bureaucracy slowing it up a little right now while they figure out the ETD folks.

Well, I hope they fix it soon. I feel rotten about all the cheerleading I've done for my ASA buddies.

My recruiting efforts are now at a complete standstill, now that I have learned what a bait & switch this all is.

I am not gonna lie to another pilot for $2,000

172skychicken 03-16-2018 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by Flogger (Post 2551920)
I have been hearing quite a bit of grumbles that the DGI program is not functioning. The SSP is stalled out with the last few folks not going anywhere and not a single DGI interview is scheduled. With the company able to hire more than they need, there seems to be no incentive to get DGI or any sort of flow going.

Is there something I'm missing?

This is all moot. Nothing can happen until someone eligible for the DGI has passed the 2 year anniversary mark of their captain upgrade. That has not happened yet.


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