Rumor or not?
05-30-2018, 08:44 AM
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Rumor or not?
Trying to confirm if this is a rumor. Has anyone heard of being able to go back to training at 9E after being asked to resign because of being slow in training? (Sim portion) I heard there was a lawsuit filed from some of the pilots that were asked to resign and they were able to return back to work from a jumpseater. Don't know if it is true but would like to know.
05-30-2018, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dparisi
Trying to confirm if this is a rumor. Has anyone heard of being able to go back to training at 9E after being asked to resign because of being slow in training? (Sim portion) I heard there was a lawsuit filed from some of the pilots that were asked to resign and they were able to return back to work from a jumpseater. Don't know if it is true but would like to know.
I doubt if a lawsuit would go anywhere, in the bad old days they just fired you for not being able to hack the sims, no option to resign. I think the option to resign is intended to be mercy. The first year you're on probation, you can be fired for any reason. I'm guessing not being able to complete training within a reasonable time period is plenty defensible in court.
05-30-2018, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by dparisi
Trying to confirm if this is a rumor. Has anyone heard of being able to go back to training at 9E after being asked to resign because of being slow in training? (Sim portion) I heard there was a lawsuit filed from some of the pilots that were asked to resign and they were able to return back to work from a jumpseater. Don't know if it is true but would like to know.
05-30-2018, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dparisi
Trying to confirm if this is a rumor. Has anyone heard of being able to go back to training at 9E after being asked to resign because of being slow in training? (Sim portion) I heard there was a lawsuit filed from some of the pilots that were asked to resign and they were able to return back to work from a jumpseater. Don't know if it is true but would like to know.
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05-31-2018, 10:14 AM
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Airline programs have structured curriculums approved by the FAA. While there is room to add extra sessions when needed, there are limits to how many extra sims may be offered based on performance evaluation and progression. If it is apparent that extra sims are not really helping then there comes a point where the airline has to pull the plug.
It is unlikely that a candidate will be asked to resign. The conversation would probably relay to the candidate that they will not be able to successfully complete the program and therefore will be dismissed. As a saving grace, the option to resign is considered by the candidate. Future employment prospects depend on how the candidate is able to clearly explain the circumstances and what they learnt from it.
It is unlikely that a candidate will be asked to resign. The conversation would probably relay to the candidate that they will not be able to successfully complete the program and therefore will be dismissed. As a saving grace, the option to resign is considered by the candidate. Future employment prospects depend on how the candidate is able to clearly explain the circumstances and what they learnt from it.
05-31-2018, 02:28 PM
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Have not heard this. I know they're turning people away and not hiring as classes are full. Just had a pretty big CA class go through and I think the summer ones a lot of us just got are pretty big too. 1 or 2 extra sims you'll get if you're headed in the right direction just need a little more confidence/practice. Being allowed to come back after washing out, I doubt it. The bad part is the PRIA record you get slapped with to beat you while you're down.
05-31-2018, 11:05 PM
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I remember this from when I used to work there....
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal...2815/55140/29/
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal...2815/55140/29/
06-01-2018, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
I heard a rumor Delta is taking the summer off from initial pilot classes. Might be why we are only hiring 20/month. Reduced attrition.
