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Avroman 08-28-2018 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 2663893)
Sure, but the stars have to align properly for that to happen, especially with the built in buffers in NYC. I've seen captains taxi painfully slow and purposely not set the brake to squeeze an extra cheeseburger out of Delta. At some point, you have to be a professional.

We have a former Director of Ops here that has a boat named "the extra tenth", I'll give you one minute to figure that one out...

theUpsideDown 08-29-2018 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 2663893)
Sure, but the stars have to align properly for that to happen, especially with the built in buffers in NYC. I've seen captains taxi painfully slow and purposely not set the brake to squeeze an extra cheeseburger out of Delta. At some point, you have to be a professional.

The built in buffers aren't sat. Im over sat on the reg. If someone's milking it, that borderline stupid, but my on time has to be close to good and i beat sat. The real problem ive found is fos cant log into rainmaker and if they can they dont know what anything means. True story. About half of you think FLICA is somehow related to pay, the other half cant be bothered to learn where their paycheck comes from.

Avroman 08-29-2018 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 2663893)
Sure, but the stars have to align properly for that to happen, especially with the built in buffers in NYC. I've seen captains taxi painfully slow and purposely not set the brake to squeeze an extra cheeseburger out of Delta. At some point, you have to be a professional.

I've delayed the brake set/door open when we are late and I'm trying to give the station the full 35 minutes to turn the plane. With a lot of pink tags to deal with these stations are already hard pressed to successfully turn in 35 minutes, that extra 50 seconds has often made the difference. Now I don't taxi at rotation like Southwest, nor do I get passed by snails like American.

TalkTurkey 08-29-2018 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2663989)
If they wanted reliable, they would get the F out of the Northeast, and take us with them... but the idiots that live and work there are so used to paying 50% more for EVERYTHING than the rest of the country that the money outweighs the crap show that is operating there.

So you’re calling everyone who works and lives there an idiot? Just want to get that straight so I can tell them all who says that.

Blueskies21 08-29-2018 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 2663893)
Sure, but the stars have to align properly for that to happen, especially with the built in buffers in NYC. I've seen captains taxi painfully slow and purposely not set the brake to squeeze an extra cheeseburger out of Delta. At some point, you have to be a professional.

We get paid scheduled AVERAGE time or better. Do you know how averages work? Every time you're above the average you're making money for everyone when the new SAT's are calculated.

I don't taxi slow, but I drop the brake at door close. You'd be surprised how often we're over SAT, and at my rate I get a cheeseburger's amount of pay every 3 minutes. I'm gonna get pretty fat.

You never know when something is going to crop up to delay your push, if you're sitting there with the brake set waiting for departure time, you're potentially losing money if you could have been over SAT on this leg. On time door close is D-3; on four legs even if nothing goes wrong, you could be losing 12 minutes by keeping the brake set. That's like $15-20 at Captain's rates.

If they want us to hold the brake release then they should pay us door close to door open, if they change that I'll drop the brake whenever they'd like.

CMA757 08-29-2018 08:28 AM

Don't be confused by this thread. On the line at 9E, when the door is shut the brake gets dropped. There is no discussion.

Casualinterest 08-31-2018 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by CMA757 (Post 2664202)
Don't be confused by this thread. On the line at 9E, when the door is shut the brake gets dropped. There is no discussion.

Lol thanks for getting back on the rails

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Baradium 08-31-2018 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by CMA757 (Post 2664202)
Don't be confused by this thread. On the line at 9E, when the door is shut the brake gets dropped. There is no discussion.

It is, however, what mainline does and is likely where the thought to change policy comes from. The problem is that mainline gets paid BOB so SATs don't matter and block is usually long enough.

Avroman 09-03-2018 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by TalkTurkey (Post 2664147)
So you’re calling everyone who works and lives there an idiot? Just want to get that straight so I can tell them all who says that.

Yea in a way I guess I am. Why live in that crowding, congestion, cost (and in many parts filth, hello
the piles of garbage trashbags all along Times Square) and the lousy weather for the same price you could live in San Diego or much of Hawaii? The only major city on the continent I'd less rather be in is Mexico City. In the words of Ted DiBiase, "Everyone has their price" I just know my price is so wildly far above what any pilot (or employee) of Endeavor would ever make that it's not worth thinking of... ( my price would be a number so stupid it's not worth mentioning, just as some feel about my city, and that's just fine... we luckily still have a choice for now)

greenroute 09-07-2018 09:49 AM

I’m below min day almost every single day in September, therefore I fly as fast as I feel like.


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