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Old 03-12-2019, 09:06 AM
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Things certainly fluctuate, sometimes for better, sometimes for worse, but the one constant is this: we work with some serious drama queens.
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21 View Post
This ^^^ If you're planning to be in this profession for the long term, please, please, please understand this. My future career QOL depends on it. If you don't see whatever is "promised" in contract negotiation in writing in the contract you're currently voting on, it doesn't exist. "Promises" are made to get people to vote on a contract, if it's not in the black and white language of the deal, it's nothing.

As for the union not doing their job, I think they're doing exactly what we pay them to do. The Company doesn't give us anything for free, and we shouldn't be giving them things for free either. Dynamic training scheduling was a huge concession for this pilot group. The Company wants it, they think it will save them money so we should get something for that loss of QOL and for the money saved. So far, that something is 30% LCR. We're trading the QOL of trainees and instructors for increased QOL for reserves, I guess that's an OK trade. However, there are some unintended consequences of the dynamic scheduling, things like traveling on days off, sitting in MSP with no sims scheduled, scheduling more instructors than sims. We didn't know about those things when we signed the trial. Now we do, so we want those things fixed in plain language of the new LOA. So far, the Company hasn't agreed to fix those things. I think ultimately they will and the 30% LCR will come back unless they just don't see the value in this Dynamic Scheduling thing and they want to abandon it completely.

It sucks for April but in the long term if we go back to 15% for a few months to secure the language in the new LOA to protect this pilot group for the next X years, then I think it's worth it. I hope I'm in the majority on that.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:18 AM
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as long as we're talking about hits, the folks over at gojet are being promised by their management that the delta flying isnt going anywhere

no growth in 2019?
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:05 PM
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as long as we're talking about hits, the folks over at gojet are being promised by their management that the delta flying isnt going anywhere

no growth in 2019?
They're gonna need those pilots to staff their extra 25 planes for United, because they sure as hell aren't going to hire 200+ pilots OTS.
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:14 PM
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I thought they said they needed like 500.
Might have to up those bonuses some more.
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingus View Post
as long as we're talking about hits, the folks over at gojet are being promised by their management that the delta flying isnt going anywhere

no growth in 2019?
Regional airline management making promises? Like "We're growing!"? Yeah because management always tells the truth! Whipsaw!!!
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Meow1215 View Post
Regional airline management making promises? Like "We're growing!"? Yeah because management always tells the truth! Whipsaw!!!
Gojet management is pretty well known for telling the truth right?
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Old 03-12-2019, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cursesRedBaron View Post
I thought they said they needed like 500.
Might have to up those bonuses some more.
Maybe that’s why everyone I know including myself got a postcard in the mail. Even my mainline friends got them. “You mean i could leave flying a Boeing to fly a crj for less than what I make now? Count me in”
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Old 03-12-2019, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Shadre Reevis View Post
Uber promise for co-domicile? I can't wait for you to show me that promise in writing. Because I sure hope you weren't suckered into voting yes without that promise written into a contract.
I’m part of the 15% who voted NO. What part were you? I’m saying this was put out there to sway the vote. period! I’ve been here to long to buy into these promises.
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle View Post
I’m part of the 15% who voted NO. What part were you? I’m saying this was put out there to sway the vote. period! I’ve been here to long to buy into these promises.
Nice try, but I don't buy it. Your response indicated you were upset that "the Uber promise" didn't happen.

There is no promise if it isn't written down in a contract. The "Uber promise" you spoke of shouldn't even be part of this conversation.
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