ninerdriver

This is correct. The Envoy guy in my crashpad was surprised that we had a van between the airports.

Shadre Reevis

Envoy. Also, Boats and Hos was using our FAs as his crutch, saying $50 is not enough. But they are not co-domicile like we are. And not enough for what exactly? Do people really think their personal transportation to their jobs should be completely free? We are lucky to get anything we didn’t negotiate for.

Yes, it sucks. It sucks worse at other places in NYC with lower pay rates that aren’t even paid 100% for their deadheads (Example: Envoy). I’m sure it also sucks for Delta retirees now that we have S3A. How long and hard did we negotiate to receive S3A status again? Anyone?

Policies change. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose. But you should only expect what you negotiate. Be grateful for anything else. People are literally complaining that someone is handing them $50 to pay for their ride to work. I simply don't understand the ingratitude and whining while we receive so much more than others, and for free.

JulesWinfield

Their reserve and ready reserve rules are terrible.

clueless

The company is setting themselves up for success...they “know” that growth is coming and with that will come negotiations...if they enter into negotiations with a pilot group that already has their 7 course meal, in order to get what they want, they are going to have to give us a third dessert and a case of aged whiskey...

If the pilot group is living on bread and water, the company can get what they want in a negotiation and it will only cost them a lukewarm salami sandwich.

They are making us miserable intentionally. They aren’t going to make it bad enough for people to quit to other regionals, but they are trying to bring us back down to the level of other regionals so that when something good comes up in negotiations, the pilot group will grasp for it without hesitation and without getting its true value out of the deal.

That’s my thoughts anyway.

And since this is an online post and I haven’t insulted anyone yet...for those people who think that the first class upgrade thing isn’t our management’s doing....or at least that our management couldn’t fix it...you’re delusional. DELUSIONAL

Shadre Reevis

Even if that's true, then the same must be true for our S3A priority. Our commuters must be awfully quiet on this board, because nobody else seems to be bringing this up. We are quick to remember the bad and forget the good.

Blueskies21

Shhhhh. S3A is AWESOME! Don't remind them so they can take our nice stuff away! I don't want to go behind the retirees again!

GreenerPastures

^^^^ THIS!
And Positive Space on 2nd flight for commuters too.

Keep putting me in the back on a dead head for 100% pay. I'm going to sleep anyway. Can't drink. Already bored with the snacks. My goal is to get a seat in the back with nobody next to me. Better than upgrade to first with someone next to me. I've never dead headed longer than 2 hours.

Mesabah

That's how I've been seeing it. They are putting the screws to us because the Delta shuffle is inbound, and they need something.

flynfish77

I'm hearing a ton of folks applying to ULCC's lately that I never would have guessed...most of whom have DGI clocks running, that is indicative of something.

Some of you have severe cases of Stockholm syndrome.

theUpsideDown

I wish them good fortune in the wars to come. They should have learned what playing with the regional feed too often does, but they can learn again if they forget easily.