Kforekyle

Stay away from NY!

Boats and Hos

Most, if not all, new hires will be going to NYC as quite a number have been waiting to get out. Now with the growth announced we need to see the feedback results as I think they aren't positive especially with regards to NYC. Vast improvements need to be made as that new LGA Crew/Quiet room(s) is poor.

Some points about NYC.
1) Lots of ready reserve at LGA or JFK. The minimum is 12$ each way in a cab so that's 24$ a day times a minimum of three days a week. They took the shuttle and gave 50$. We cover two airports. Plan on year.
2)Crew scheduling;. They do not follow the contract. FLICA is always red and has been even during time off without pay. What you see and they use are two different things. It is not at all transparent. One flies a lot off while another sits for weeks on end.
3)FATIGUE; We have an FRMS but they can deny you without any medical foundation. You shouldn't be punished except that it can come out of your sick bank/pay. It's a flawed system. You will be fatigued a lot in NYC as every week there is an IROP and the Edicts are long. You will get a lot of sitting at outstations airport time. No hotel unless it's 4+30 but it has to be 100% accurate. They watch every second.
4)Crashpads; yes they are illegal in NY but a lot are overlooked. I think the crackdown is just starting and this will be a big issue. A studio is 1500$ a month minimum. If you come here you should be ready for it. In the Kew, halfway between LGA and JFK, the going rate is 300$ for a cold bed. If you have not done crash pads you should really think about it.
5)Commuting; honestly if you don't have to, don't do it, it's stress full not matter where you are coming from. Again, NY is in a meltdown always with IROPS and construction. It will be a number of years before LGA is finished. Getting a taxi at LGA will make you regret it.
6)Support; Leadership is poor in NY unless it is serious in nature.
7)PBS/Bidding; if you have not used it before it can get complicated. 5am reserve for 14 hours is what you'll get until you can hold 10a to midnight. No more Stand ups but they can, and should, bring those back. That would mean more lines for not just pilot's but F/A's. Taking those away hurt a lot of people. It was unnecessary.

It was better a year ago but they took a lot of the things that mitigated NY away. It will be difficult to attract and retain people with the way things are right now. You really need to do your due diligence before coming and I'd say go visit NY and the operation before you decide. This is just opinion and I am sure others will chime in. good luck.

JulesWinfield

I've been here a year and a half. Two fatigue calls, both covered as operational in nature. Not a word from management.

prex8390

Little more time here. Spent time in New York but I escaped. Same for all though.

JulesWinfield

It's not ideal, but you make a lot of extra money in NYC as a lineholder, from all of the cancellations and delays.

Casualinterest

You'll all note that this dude guy is basically the only one who has these all these problems. 3 years in NY. Some as FO some as CA and I've literally not encountered a single one of these except the transportation issue. And I sat ready reserve once as a captain in NY and twice as an FO. I chose to commute to NY because I liked it. Flying was better, higher credit per trip and more days off. The commute was cake. As a reservist, yea if you can avoid NY for the transportation expense. I would. But I did it for a good while and its not too bad. I usually budgeted about $200 a month for transportation. So $150 out of pocket.

And no they came bring back high speeds. ALPA, Endeavor, and Delta lawyers all agreed that they don't comply with 117 rules unless you give them the full 10 hours, which defeats the purpose of the high speed.

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Boats and Hos

Thought we were being civil Casual. I guess not anymore. Not sure why. Referring to me as This Dude Guy, great way to make your point.

You’ve been lucky and joined at a different time. My experience has been significantly different than yours and so have others. Not many post on here out of 2500 so more experiences like yours and more like mine perhaps. A lot in my group have had it pretty bad. Yeah, I hope it changes and it looks like it might but it’s been two years now.

It’s really more whipsawing and commuting to NY to join the bottom of another regional seems silly to me. If you choose to do so you are really truly better off at a place with a real flow. The place isn’t the best choice anymore and the mother ship has done some real awful things to their regionals. Best of luck to you.

Casualinterest

We are, but it's annoying when you seemingly devote one post a week to bashing this place without context. Btw online message board standards my post was like chess tournament civil. Notice my posts talk about what I went through, and your posts tell people what they will go through. I don't try and paint a picture that says my experience will be there's like you do. I usually go out of my way to tell people that their experience will differ from mine in order to give context. You specifically tell people that they will basically be wallowing in self misery if they step foot here.

It's also frustrating when, after being part of the Doom and Gloom patrol for the past year on these boards, your tone hasn't budged 1 degree after an announcement of 20 (possibly 29) new airframes that you guys said would probably never get here.

If we got stapled with immediate profit sharing back pay through DOH there are a lot of people on here that would complain about having to do extra LMS.

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ninerdriver

OMG. Stop crying about everything, please.

Boats and Hos

Not all true but again, we’ll just disagree. All the best to you Casual. I am glad you enjoy the place so much. Yeah, ok, I’ll stop crying and let people decide for themselves how great it is. A lot of people complain about various regionals just better not say anything here. It’s not that some of us haven’t been here before.