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Old 08-09-2019, 12:42 PM
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You'll all note that this dude guy is basically the only one who has these all these problems. 3 years in NY. Some as FO some as CA and I've literally not encountered a single one of these except the transportation issue. And I sat ready reserve once as a captain in NY and twice as an FO. I chose to commute to NY because I liked it. Flying was better, higher credit per trip and more days off. The commute was cake. As a reservist, yea if you can avoid NY for the transportation expense. I would. But I did it for a good while and its not too bad. I usually budgeted about $200 a month for transportation. So $150 out of pocket.

And no they came bring back high speeds. ALPA, Endeavor, and Delta lawyers all agreed that they don't comply with 117 rules unless you give them the full 10 hours, which defeats the purpose of the high speed.

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No, CDO's are legal, and SDT's are legal. What's illegal is building a pairing as a SDT, then having scheduling "change" it to a CDO once you're on duty. If they were totally illegal, every airline would have stopped doing them.
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Old 08-09-2019, 01:31 PM
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No, CDO's are legal, and SDT's are legal. What's illegal is building a pairing as a SDT, then having scheduling "change" it to a CDO once you're on duty. If they were totally illegal, every airline would have stopped doing them.
You're right. I read it again. The way the company would want to do CDO's would be illegal. It reads like there are two issues. You can't convert SDT to CDO's and ALSO CDO's can't operate with mid duty rest longer than 12 hours of FDP, which isn't enough time to do the flying.

Thanks for pointing that out

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"Based upon Endeavor's historical operational experience, it became clear to the Company that if it couldn't reduce the mid-duty rest associated with an SDT or CDO, a significant number of morning departures would be delayed, which would negatively impact the carrier's overall operational performance."

"By contrast, CDOs can be constructed with a shorter or no mid-duty period rest, but are limited to an 11 to 12 hour duty day, depending upon the report time. Typically, the shorter FDP limit on CDOs is not sufficient to accomplish the flying associated with the service in the market. "



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Old 08-09-2019, 02:48 PM
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Most, if not all, new hires will be going to NYC as quite a number have been waiting to get out. Now with the growth announced we need to see the feedback results as I think they aren't positive especially with regards to NYC. Vast improvements need to be made as that new LGA Crew/Quiet room(s) is poor.

Some points about NYC.
1) Lots of ready reserve at LGA or JFK. The minimum is 12$ each way in a cab so that's 24$ a day times a minimum of three days a week. They took the shuttle and gave 50$. We cover two airports. Plan on year.
2)Crew scheduling;. They do not follow the contract. FLICA is always red and has been even during time off without pay. What you see and they use are two different things. It is not at all transparent. One flies a lot off while another sits for weeks on end.
3)FATIGUE; We have an FRMS but they can deny you without any medical foundation. You shouldn't be punished except that it can come out of your sick bank/pay. It's a flawed system. You will be fatigued a lot in NYC as every week there is an IROP and the Edicts are long. You will get a lot of sitting at outstations airport time. No hotel unless it's 4+30 but it has to be 100% accurate. They watch every second.
4)Crashpads; yes they are illegal in NY but a lot are overlooked. I think the crackdown is just starting and this will be a big issue. A studio is 1500$ a month minimum. If you come here you should be ready for it. In the Kew, halfway between LGA and JFK, the going rate is 300$ for a cold bed. If you have not done crash pads you should really think about it.
5)Commuting; honestly if you don't have to, don't do it, it's stress full not matter where you are coming from. Again, NY is in a meltdown always with IROPS and construction. It will be a number of years before LGA is finished. Getting a taxi at LGA will make you regret it.
6)Support; Leadership is poor in NY unless it is serious in nature.
7)PBS/Bidding; if you have not used it before it can get complicated. 5am reserve for 14 hours is what you'll get until you can hold 10a to midnight. No more Stand ups but they can, and should, bring those back. That would mean more lines for not just pilot's but F/A's. Taking those away hurt a lot of people. It was unnecessary.

It was better a year ago but they took a lot of the things that mitigated NY away. It will be difficult to attract and retain people with the way things are right now. You really need to do your due diligence before coming and I'd say go visit NY and the operation before you decide. This is just opinion and I am sure others will chime in. good luck.
Everything was better a year ago? Boy should we pull up your posts from a year ago? You’ve been here for almost 2 years and I don’t think anything you have ever posted has ever been anything but the Sky is falling. Like literally I cannot recall anything you’ve ever posted other than complaints. Stop acting like the company has flipped on you. As soon as you finished OE you started complaining about how things were “so much better.”
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:33 PM
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Everything was better a year ago? Boy should we pull up your posts from a year ago? You’ve been here for almost 2 years and I don’t think anything you have ever posted has ever been anything but the Sky is falling. Like literally I cannot recall anything you’ve ever posted other than complaints. Stop acting like the company has flipped on you. As soon as you finished OE you started complaining about how things were “so much better.”
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:35 PM
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Everything was better a year ago? Boy should we pull up your posts from a year ago? You’ve been here for almost 2 years and I don’t think anything you have ever posted has ever been anything but the Sky is falling. Like literally I cannot recall anything you’ve ever posted other than complaints. Stop acting like the company has flipped on you. As soon as you finished OE you started complaining about how things were “so much better.”
It was better a year ago. It was also a helluva lot worse in BK until 2015ish. That's the nature of the business and the ups and downs are a whole lot worse at the regionals. Today's gem is tomorrow's trash and vice versa. If you can't handle it, try another industry.

Would I recommend Endeavor today? I don't know... I might if you lived in a base other than MSP or really wanted NYC. One thing for sure is we are losing our competitive edge with applicants. We won't get anything to help that until we can't hire.
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:43 PM
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It was better a year ago. It was also a helluva lot worse in BK until 2015ish. That's the nature of the business and the ups and downs are a whole lot worse at the regionals. Today's gem is tomorrow's trash and vice versa. If you can't handle it, try another industry.

Would I recommend Endeavor today? I don't know... I might if you lived in a base other than MSP or really wanted NYC. One thing for sure is we are losing our competitive edge with applicants. We won't get anything to help that until we can't hire.
Losing our competitive edge might be a good thing. Just saying
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Old 08-10-2019, 04:32 AM
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HA HA HA you guys should have lived my career if you think things are terrible right now. Things could certainly be better but we have 400 lifers so you just have to accept there is no movement above that point and if you come here not wanting to deal with NYC then you shouldn't have come here.
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Originally Posted by prex8390 View Post
Everything was better a year ago? Boy should we pull up your posts from a year ago? You’ve been here for almost 2 years and I don’t think anything you have ever posted has ever been anything but the Sky is falling. Like literally I cannot recall anything you’ve ever posted other than complaints. Stop acting like the company has flipped on you. As soon as you finished OE you started complaining about how things were “so much better.”
*One year earlier*

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Hmmm
So, offer a different perspective or opinion and get personally attacked. I am not sour nor do I have a bad attitude. I disagree with some things on here but have not made it personal. So thank you Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

We are not hiring 60+ a month yet.
We do not have a flow.
We do not have 175s.
New Hires will be on Reserve for a year.
We simply cannot handle massive expansion. Its why we slowed in the first place

Yes, EDV is an ok place to work but it's still a regional.

Now disagree/agree but stop with the personal attacks, it's unbecoming!
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*One year earlier*
This is after he turned down a job at Envoy, lol.
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Old 08-10-2019, 11:23 AM
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HA HA HA you guys should have lived my career if you think things are terrible right now. Things could certainly be better but we have 400 lifers so you just have to accept there is no movement above that point and if you come here not wanting to deal with NYC then you shouldn't have come here.
Amen Avro. A lot of these guys have no idea how bad it was in BK. Nobody should have to know that.

People coming here should have a realistic outlook and tempered expectations. NYC and a coin toss of an interview. I hope our recruiters are being honest.
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