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08-08-2019, 09:14 AM

jetlag q

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With realignment news: psa or endeavor

I live in Richmond started with PSA and resigned. Went to Mesa and just finished ioe. I have a class date with endeavor and was told to reapply in October to PSA.

ENDEAVOR was my 1st option then the hiring freeze occurred. With the realignment news put out by delta. In your opinion would you advise taking the ENDEAVOR opportunity or PSA

08-08-2019, 09:31 AM

KelvinHelmholtz

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You have a 121 failure on your record? If you can get on with PSA go there. Take the flow to AA and never have to explain that in an interview. Also PSA has bases within driving distance of RIC.

08-08-2019, 09:31 AM

JulesWinfield

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Wow, lots going on. 3 regionals in a year doesn't bode well for the resume. Did you fail training at PSA?

08-08-2019, 09:47 AM

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PSA is a better choice than endeavor since I believe Norfolk is one of their junior bases and not a long drive, but a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. I wouldn’t wait around for the possibility of PSA hiring you, that’d be like waiting around at Endeavor for the possibility Delta may hire you when Jet Blue or United is already giving you a job offer.

If you do come to Endeavor, know we are already overstaffed quite a bit to absorb some of this new growth, so the movement may not be as quick as it seems. Reserve will no doubt be long, you’ll likely be on the 200, and upgrade will take longer than other airlines, beyond 1000 121 most likely. We do have an excellent commuter policy though.

08-08-2019, 10:25 AM

theUpsideDown

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If you've got some failures but pass the PSA interview you're going to flow no matter what.

There is no flow at edv, and delta doesnt ever want there to be

08-08-2019, 11:01 AM

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Honestly it’s kinda hard to give advice when you’re all over the place like that. Doesn’t sound like you even know what you want!

08-08-2019, 11:36 AM

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Kind of hijacking the threat, but I'm an Orlando based flight instructor and deciding between EDV and PSA would most likely be commuting. I Should hit my hours in the next month or so, and wondering what you guys would recommend? If I did PSA I would probably try to get a line up in CVG til I could hold CLT and for EDV it would be trying to get to ATL as quick as I could.

08-08-2019, 11:47 AM

flydiamond

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There are no guarantees of quick access to ATL. People have had to wait as long as 6 months post IOE for it before and we aren’t growing Atl. It’s also a very difficult commute from MCO but I imagine CLT is as well. Furthermore, having seen the stagnation at endeavor caused by no attrition to the major and lots of great people getting the “no,” take the guaranteed flow. The guaranteed movement off the top of the list is worth it, and the slightly lower pay at psa is more than made up for the fact psa provides commuter hotels and you’ll never have to put up with nyc and a $30 Uber between the 2 airports.

08-08-2019, 11:49 AM

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EDV has a good commuting policy 2nd flight positive space if you don't make your first flight. ATL isn't terribly senior either so you'd get it eventually.

PSA has nice base options, pilot contract not as good but pay rates are similar at both first year at least, EDV is more long term. PSA is seeing a lot of growth and are making a lot of improvements in all areas of the company.

Flow takes too long, why wait at a regional for 7+ years. And the DGI isn't a guaranteed job. So both those things should just be thrown out when weighing options.